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1997-03-12
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1 Re: NATO Expansion (mind)  38 sor     (cikkei)
2 Re: Va: Health care systems (mind)  44 sor     (cikkei)
3 Re: Anglo-Saxons (mind)  42 sor     (cikkei)
4 FW: Re: NATO Expansion (mind)  52 sor     (cikkei)
5 Re: Va: Health care systems (mind)  45 sor     (cikkei)
6 Re: Va: Health care systems (mind)  10 sor     (cikkei)
7 HL-Action: write New President at World Court (mind)  66 sor     (cikkei)
8 HL-Action: write New President at World Court (mind)  66 sor     (cikkei)
9 Re: NATO Expansion (mind)  64 sor     (cikkei)
10 Re: Health care systems (mind)  24 sor     (cikkei)
11 Re: Anglo-Saxons (mind)  64 sor     (cikkei)
12 Re: Va: Health care systems (mind)  59 sor     (cikkei)
13 Re: question (mind)  10 sor     (cikkei)
14 Re: Simandy (mind)  40 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Re: NATO Expansion (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

> Meciar at the moment is embarking on a referendum which will surely
> defeat any Slovak desire (of which there is none) to join
> NATO. Meciar knows that Slovakia has not met the requirements for
> NATO membership. Its democracy is highly questionable.

There's often a problem with what is meant by quasi-generic reference:
"Slovak desire" may refer to the present government or the citizens of
Slovakia.  Specific reference avoids that.


Two February opinion polls suggest that the proposed referendum would
say "Yes." to NATO in Slovakia today.
        Regardless of the referendum, several opinion polls in the
past year have shown the population of Slovakia to be among the
supporters of NATO in ex-communist Europe.  The support among the
voters of the opposition parties (including the Magyar coalition)
ranges between 56%-79%, and the voters of one of the three ruling
coalition partners are more for - 40%, than against - 25%.
        The opposition to NATO among Meciar's voters isn't pronounced:
34% for, and 40% against (26% of the eligible voters voted for Meciar
in 1994).


In two recent Western reviews of democratic standards in the world,
Slovakia got a "B" (A=best, D=worst).  Turkey, a NATO member, got a
"C/D".  Of course, when Turkey joined NATO in 1952 its internal
politics was disregarded for strategic reasons.
        Strategically, Slovakia might have little to worry about if
Hungary and Poland were in NATO (unless things change in Budapest).
Its 56-mile long border with (the) Ukraine should be defensible for a
country of its size.  Its internal politics is what matters.  If
that's OK, an on-the-spot arrangement with NATO will be welcome by
both parties in case of some growing threat outside of NATO.


Martin


+ - Re: Va: Health care systems (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

>Date:    Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:46:30 +0100
>From:    "Dr. Tokodi Gyvrgy" >
>Subject: Va: Health care systems
>
>Kedves Eva, allitasaid 1/8 resze igaz, 1/8 resze hamis,
>1/4 resze tevedes, 1/2 resze tudatos dezinformalas. Megnyugtat
>viszont, hogy szamolni meg a hvg-forumon elszenvedett
>pofonok ellenere sem tanultal meg, ugyanis Magyarorszagon
>valamivel tobb, mint 40000 orvos van es kb. 10,5 millio lakos.
>Ezt a ket szamot akarhogy osztom egymassal, nem jon ki az
>altalad emlitett 76,9 ratio. Ha elfogadnank ezt a ratiot, az kozel
>130000 orvost feltetelezne, ennyivel pedig mar Mississippit is
[......]


This comes from some cute little CD ROM (PC Globe " Maps'N'Facts)
circa 1994. I would eb surprised if the numbers changed radically in
3-4 years.


Hungary - Health

Life expectancy at birth:
        Males:   68 years             Females:   76 years
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crude death rate:          13 per 1000 persons die per year
Infant mortality:          14 per 1000 live births
Maternal mortality:      16.9 per 100,000 mothers die during birth
Fertility rate:           1.8 children per woman
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hospitals:                    148      71,338 persons per hospital
Hospital beds:            101,652         104 persons per hospital bed
Physicians:                32,200         328 persons per physician
Dentists:                   3,988       2,647 persons per dentist
Pharmacists:                4,501       2,346 persons per pharmacist
Nursing personnel:         50,172         210 persons per nurse
Midwifery personnel:        2,613       4,041 persons per midwife
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Medical care expenditures:        2.1% of national budget
Access to local health care:    100.0% with access
Contraception use:               73.0% of married women
Measles immunization:            95.0% infants ( < 12 months) immunized
DPT immunization:                99.5% infants ( < 12 months) immunized
AIDS cases reported:              1.00 per 100,000 persons
+ - Re: Anglo-Saxons (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

E.Balogh wrote:

>Germany. And without the United States the defeat of Germany didn't look
>terribly promising.

Yes, indeed it did. The USSR would have won against Germany with or without
the US.

>terribly promising. One might even entertain the idea that without the
>United States, at the end of the war the Soviet Union would have run down
>whole of Europe, not only its eastern part.

Exactly. One might say the US defended Europe (or part of it) against the
communist Russia and not the Nazi Germany.

>interest to enter. As for World War I it wasn't so much of British trickery
>which made the United States join but rather German stupidity and insults.

I disagree with both the 'British trickery' and 'German insult/stupidity'
theory. I think it was cold blooded calculation from the American side. They
probable considered the most benificial with the least cost to side with
the Entente. This 'German insult' stuff is just propaganda and/or excuse.

>        Not Great Britain! Certainly Roosevelt was less suspicious of the
>Soviets than Churchill was but in my humble opinion, even if Roosevelt had
>been a lion fighting the Russians at the conference table, even then Eastern
>Europe was lost. The Soviets were the ones who "liberated" that part of
>Europe and they were in possession.

You see, here is the problem. They should not have been a lion fighting
the Russians at the conference table, but they should have been more
agressive on the battlefield in Italy or in Greece as Churchill suggested.
But in this case they would have jumped right in the middle of the shit and
not just touched it from the edge. They would have encountered much more
and stronger German troops than they did otherwise and the Russians would
not have been particularly happy with this scenario either. I don't think
that either the americans or the British were willing to have all these
trouble for East Europe. One can ask of course why they should have. If one
made a cold blooded calculation then there was no reason to sacrify americans
for East Europe. (I am not sarcastic!!)

J.Zs
+ - FW: Re: NATO Expansion (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

> Meciar at the moment is embarking on a referendum which will surely
> defeat any Slovak desire (of which there is none) to join
> NATO. Meciar knows that Slovakia has not met the requirements for
> NATO membership. Its democracy is highly questionable.

<There's often a problem with what is meant by quasi-generic reference:
<"Slovak desire" may refer to the present government or the citizens of
<Slovakia.  Specific reference avoids that.


<Two February opinion polls suggest that the proposed referendum would
<say "Yes." to NATO in Slovakia today.

This was my impression, too, when talking to ( ethnic ) Slovaks.
And this INSPITE of the questions posed ( stationing foreign troops?
stationing nuclear weapons? ). Or what was/were the question(s) of the
poll?

<        Regardless of the referendum, several opinion polls in the
<past year have shown the population of Slovakia to be among the
<supporters of NATO in ex-communist Europe.  The support among the
<voters of the opposition parties (including the Magyar coalition)
<ranges between 56%-79%, and the voters of one of the three ruling
<coalition partners are more for - 40%, than against - 25%.
<        The opposition to NATO among Meciar's voters isn't pronounced:
<34% for, and 40% against (26% of the eligible voters voted for Meciar
<in 1994).

<In two recent Western reviews of democratic standards in the world,
<Slovakia got a "B" (A=best, D=worst).

Yes, the Slovakian Army doesn4t ( yet? I don4t think so ) attack
East-Slovalian villages with tanks and heavy artillery. Nor do the
minorities build partisan armies. ( I wouldn4t rely ( yet ) to much
weight on that B. )
Which review were these?

<Turkey, a NATO member, got a
<"C/D".  Of course, when Turkey joined NATO in 1952 its internal
<politics was disregarded for strategic reasons.
<        Strategically, Slovakia might have little to worry about if
<Hungary and Poland were in NATO (unless things change in Budapest).
<Its 56-mile long border with (the) Ukraine should be defensible for a
<country of its size.  Its internal politics is what matters.  If
<that's OK, an on-the-spot arrangement with NATO will be welcome by
<both parties in case of some growing threat outside of NATO.<

Yoe remember that fast on-the-spot arrangement aroung Bosnia?
( I admit, could be a very different case..., still. )

Regards
Miklos
+ - Re: Va: Health care systems (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

At 01:44 AM 3/12/97 -0400, Andrew Rozsa wrote:

>This comes from some cute little CD ROM (PC Globe " Maps'N'Facts)
>circa 1994. I would eb surprised if the numbers changed radically in
>3-4 years.
>
>
>Hungary - Health
>
>Life expectancy at birth:
>        Males:   68 years             Females:   76 years
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Crude death rate:          13 per 1000 persons die per year
>Infant mortality:          14 per 1000 live births
>Maternal mortality:      16.9 per 100,000 mothers die during birth
>Fertility rate:           1.8 children per woman
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Hospitals:                    148      71,338 persons per hospital
>Hospital beds:            101,652         104 persons per hospital bed
>Physicians:                32,200         328 persons per physician
>Dentists:                   3,988       2,647 persons per dentist
>Pharmacists:                4,501       2,346 persons per pharmacist
>Nursing personnel:         50,172         210 persons per nurse
>Midwifery personnel:        2,613       4,041 persons per midwife
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Medical care expenditures:        2.1% of national budget
>Access to local health care:    100.0% with access
>Contraception use:               73.0% of married women
>Measles immunization:            95.0% infants ( < 12 months) immunized
>DPT immunization:                99.5% infants ( < 12 months) immunized
>AIDS cases reported:              1.00 per 100,000 persons

Andrew,

You can solve a lot of bickering on this list if you provided similar data
for Canada, the United States, and Germany.

Everyone in Canada "knows" that Americans pay more for health care than we
do, and we also "know" that not everyone in the US is covered.  Isn't that
the reason why our system is coveted around the world?  Is this knowledge
one of our national myths or does it reflect reality?

Is your cute little CD ROM (PC Globe " Maps'N'Facts) handy?

Joe Szalai
+ - Re: Va: Health care systems (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

At 01:44 AM 3/12/97 -0400, Bandi Rozsa wrote:


>Physicians:                32,200         328 persons per physician

        My source was the 1995 Statististical Yearbook. I doubt that 10,000
doctors simply disappeared during 1996. But in any case, even if we grant
that the above is correct, even then there are too many doctors in Hungary
in comparison to other developed countries.
        Eva
+ - HL-Action: write New President at World Court (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

****************** CALL FOR ACTION ****************

Priority:
  Normal

Background:
   The International Court of Justice has elected a new President,
Stephen Schwebel, professor of law at The Johns Hopkins University in
America.  Since the new President probably does not know the details
about the upcoming Danube lawsuit yet, it is important that we inform
him.  It is likely that the new President would be receptive to a
letter campaign.
   We have to convince President Schwebel about the Compromise
Plan proposed by Bela Liptak and environmental organizations. This
plan ensures the survival of the Danube Wetlands.

What to do:
   Please send a letter to the new President of the World Court,
Stephen Schwebel.  Ask him to rule in favor of the environment; that
is, to consider the Compromise Plan.  Feel free to use the sample
letter below.  Unfortunately we do not have the e-mail address. Please
do not hesitate to send him a fax.  EVERY FAX IS IMPORTANT!!! PLEASE
ACT!! ASK YOUR FRIENDS TO JOIN YOUR REQUEST!!
   Fax number:  ++31-70-3649-928

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<date>

The Honorable Stephen Schwebel
President of the International Court of Justice
Carnegieplein 2, 2517 KJ,
Den Haag
The Netherlands
FAX: ++31-70-3649-928

Dear Mr. President:

Congratulations on your well-deserved appointment as the new
President of the International Court of Justice.  Your professional
background is sure to further increase the reputation of the Court.

This month, for the first time in history, your Court will decide on
an environmental lawsuit which affects all humankind.  In ruling on
the future of the Danube in the dispute between Hungary and Slovakia,
you and your fellow judges can set a precedent by ruling that rivers,
forests, and oceans are not the sole properties of nations, that
nations do not have the right to destroy unique ecosystems.

The ecosystem of the Szigetkoz is dying due to the tragic drop in
groundwater level which is caused by the rerouting of the Danube. This
region, which was the oxygen supply of the Danube, has been destroyed
because the lung of the river (the wetland region) has been cut out.
Shipping on the Danube has suffered because of flimsy construction and
because the dam is not designed to handle ice.  Most importantly, the
population of the region is in physical danger and two-thirds of the
populations of Dobrohost, Vojka and Bodiky have already fled.

The Foundation to Protect the Hungarian Environment has submitted to
the Court a Compromise Plan to return the Danube into its natural
riverbed.  I hope and trust that the Court will save the ecosystem of
the Szigetkoz by giving this Compromise Plan serious consideration as
it makes its historic ruling.

Respectfully,

<name, title, address>
+ - HL-Action: write New President at World Court (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

****************** CALL FOR ACTION ****************

Priority:
  Normal

Background:
   The International Court of Justice has elected a new President,
Stephen Schwebel, professor of law at The Johns Hopkins University in
America.  Since the new President probably does not know the details
about the upcoming Danube lawsuit yet, it is important that we inform
him.  It is likely that the new President would be receptive to a
letter campaign.
   We have to convince President Schwebel about the Compromise
Plan proposed by Bela Liptak and environmental organizations. This
plan ensures the survival of the Danube Wetlands.

What to do:
   Please send a letter to the new President of the World Court,
Stephen Schwebel.  Ask him to rule in favor of the environment; that
is, to consider the Compromise Plan.  Feel free to use the sample
letter below.  Unfortunately we do not have the e-mail address. Please
do not hesitate to send him a fax.  EVERY FAX IS IMPORTANT!!! PLEASE
ACT!! ASK YOUR FRIENDS TO JOIN YOUR REQUEST!!
   Fax number:  ++31-70-3649-928

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<date>

The Honorable Stephen Schwebel
President of the International Court of Justice
Carnegieplein 2, 2517 KJ,
Den Haag
The Netherlands
FAX: ++31-70-3649-928

Dear Mr. President:

Congratulations on your well-deserved appointment as the new
President of the International Court of Justice.  Your professional
background is sure to further increase the reputation of the Court.

This month, for the first time in history, your Court will decide on
an environmental lawsuit which affects all humankind.  In ruling on
the future of the Danube in the dispute between Hungary and Slovakia,
you and your fellow judges can set a precedent by ruling that rivers,
forests, and oceans are not the sole properties of nations, that
nations do not have the right to destroy unique ecosystems.

The ecosystem of the Szigetkoz is dying due to the tragic drop in
groundwater level which is caused by the rerouting of the Danube. This
region, which was the oxygen supply of the Danube, has been destroyed
because the lung of the river (the wetland region) has been cut out.
Shipping on the Danube has suffered because of flimsy construction and
because the dam is not designed to handle ice.  Most importantly, the
population of the region is in physical danger and two-thirds of the
populations of Dobrohost, Vojka and Bodiky have already fled.

The Foundation to Protect the Hungarian Environment has submitted to
the Court a Compromise Plan to return the Danube into its natural
riverbed.  I hope and trust that the Court will save the ecosystem of
the Szigetkoz by giving this Compromise Plan serious consideration as
it makes its historic ruling.

Respectfully,

<name, title, address>
+ - Re: NATO Expansion (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

> <Two February opinion polls suggest that the proposed referendum would
> <say "Yes." to NATO in Slovakia today.
>
> This was my impression, too, when talking to ( ethnic ) Slovaks.
> And this INSPITE of the questions posed ( stationing foreign troops?

        This list is supposed to be about Hungary.  There's no need to
clutter it with assumptions or technicalities about other countries,
so this is my wrap-up.  The opinion polls were designed to find out
people's potential vote on the referendum as it was worded, including
(rather than "in spite of") the questions about foreign troops and
nukes.  Regardless of what we think of polls and the stability of
public opinion, they are more representative of popular views than
personal assumptions.


> Yes, the Slovakian Army doesn4t ( yet? I don4t think so ) attack
> East-Slovalian villages with tanks and heavy artillery. Nor do the
> minorities build partisan armies. ( I wouldn4t rely ( yet ) to much

        The number of statements we can make about what 'isn't (yet?)'
the case about anything (e.g. any country) is infinite.  There's
nothing to say about them, if they're true: Slovakia and Hungary don't
have diamond fields, large fishing fleets, ethnic wars...  They're
pointless.  If they're to suggest that there's a likelihood of that
now, it'd be better to phrase them that way and provide some
insightful arguments.  Without that, they'd be wrong even
historically: there's no tradition of ethnic guerilla strife among any
of the ethnic groups in Slovakia, under Bratislava, Prague or
Budapest.


> <country of its size.  Its internal politics is what matters.  If
> <that's OK, an on-the-spot arrangement with NATO will be welcome by
> <both parties in case of some growing threat outside of NATO.<
>
> Yoe remember that fast on-the-spot arrangement aroung Bosnia?
> ( I admit, could be a very different case..., still. )

        The assumption was quite clear: if Slovakia is sandwiched
between two NATO countries (H and PL) so that only its short eastern
border remains 'exposed', and if there is some external threat.  The
assumed on-the-spot arrangement would be between Bratislava and
Brussels against that common threat, not an intervention inside the
country.
        Bosnia-Hercegovina did not have an "OK" government in control
of the country's territory, its ethnic make-up bears no comparison to
Slovakia, the nearest NATO country was 'two countries away', there was
no external threat to NATO, the war was instigated by a neighbor's
interest in "its" ethnic minority and territory in B-H.


But that was precisely the point: NATO membership
will not take care of a country's internal politics,
and in the case of Slovakia is of little strategic
relevance if Hungary and Poland are members.  Making
a fuss about it is either an unintentional ill-informed
symbolic substitute for discussing the real issues or
a deliberate decoy.


Martin


+ - Re: Health care systems (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

At 04:08 PM 3/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>At 12:01 PM 3/11/97 -0500, Andy wrote:
>
>>>Eva:I hope you wayched last night episode of Chicago Hope.If not you missed
>>something about your so called health providers.
>
>        I didn't.
>
>>I rather be stupid and not avare what I pay for my health insurance,but whar
>>ever it is I prefer this one.
>
>        And, of course, I don't think that you are stupid and it is
>perfectly all right if you like the Canadian system better as long as you
>know that it costs about the same as the American.
>
>        Eva
>
>Eva:I wasn't talking about cost.I tried to make a point,how the HMO-s
dictate what can be done on a sick person.Even a life saving operation can
not be done,since that HMO does not cover it.When it is done and HMO get
wind of it,they canvelled the persons insurance.Does this has anything to do
with cost?
Andy.
>
+ - Re: Anglo-Saxons (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

I was living in Germany in the closing stages of WWII with the American forces 
sweeping all before them. Among front line troops it was open discussion that h
aving conquered Germany the next stop would be Hungary but their political mast
ers put a stop to that. Similarly the American troops were headed towards Berli
n when they were stopped and in fact had to give up territory to the Russians.
Churchill had this obsession with attacking the "soft underbelly" of Europe and
 in late 1943 and early 1944 there was talk in informed military circles of an 
airborne attack on Hungary by the British in brigade strength at which Hungary 
would leave the Axis. Nothing came of it but the result was the occupation of H
ungary by the German forces on 19. March 1944.

Regards
Dénes 



----------
From:  Janos Zsargo[SMTP:]
Sent:  Wednesday, 12 March 1997 17:11
To:  Multiple recipients of list HUNGARY
Subject:  Re: Anglo-Saxons

E.Balogh wrote:

>Germany. And without the United States the defeat of Germany didn't look
>terribly promising.

Yes, indeed it did. The USSR would have won against Germany with or without
the US.

>terribly promising. One might even entertain the idea that without the
>United States, at the end of the war the Soviet Union would have run down
>whole of Europe, not only its eastern part.

Exactly. One might say the US defended Europe (or part of it) against the
communist Russia and not the Nazi Germany.

>interest to enter. As for World War I it wasn't so much of British trickery
>which made the United States join but rather German stupidity and insults.

I disagree with both the 'British trickery' and 'German insult/stupidity'
theory. I think it was cold blooded calculation from the American side. They
probable considered the most benificial with the least cost to side with
the Entente. This 'German insult' stuff is just propaganda and/or excuse.

>        Not Great Britain! Certainly Roosevelt was less suspicious of the
>Soviets than Churchill was but in my humble opinion, even if Roosevelt had
>been a lion fighting the Russians at the conference table, even then Eastern
>Europe was lost. The Soviets were the ones who "liberated" that part of
>Europe and they were in possession.

You see, here is the problem. They should not have been a lion fighting
the Russians at the conference table, but they should have been more
agressive on the battlefield in Italy or in Greece as Churchill suggested.
But in this case they would have jumped right in the middle of the shit and
not just touched it from the edge. They would have encountered much more
and stronger German troops than they did otherwise and the Russians would
not have been particularly happy with this scenario either. I don't think
that either the americans or the British were willing to have all these
trouble for East Europe. One can ask of course why they should have. If one
made a cold blooded calculation then there was no reason to sacrify americans
for East Europe. (I am not sarcastic!!)

J.Zs
+ - Re: Va: Health care systems (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

These numbers seem quite reasonable to me at first sight. I wonder if comparati
ve figures could be published for the USA, Canada and Germany so that direct co
mparisons were possible.

Regards
Dénes 



----------
From:  Andrew J. Rozsa[SMTP:]
Sent:  Wednesday, 12 March 1997 15:44
To:  Multiple recipients of list HUNGARY
Subject:  Re: Va: Health care systems

>Date:    Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:46:30 +0100
>From:    "Dr. Tokodi Gyvrgy" >
>Subject: Va: Health care systems
>
>Kedves Eva, allitasaid 1/8 resze igaz, 1/8 resze hamis,
>1/4 resze tevedes, 1/2 resze tudatos dezinformalas. Megnyugtat
>viszont, hogy szamolni meg a hvg-forumon elszenvedett
>pofonok ellenere sem tanultal meg, ugyanis Magyarorszagon
>valamivel tobb, mint 40000 orvos van es kb. 10,5 millio lakos.
>Ezt a ket szamot akarhogy osztom egymassal, nem jon ki az
>altalad emlitett 76,9 ratio. Ha elfogadnank ezt a ratiot, az kozel
>130000 orvost feltetelezne, ennyivel pedig mar Mississippit is
[......]


This comes from some cute little CD ROM (PC Globe " Maps'N'Facts)
circa 1994. I would eb surprised if the numbers changed radically in
3-4 years.


Hungary - Health

Life expectancy at birth:
        Males:   68 years             Females:   76 years
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crude death rate:          13 per 1000 persons die per year
Infant mortality:          14 per 1000 live births
Maternal mortality:      16.9 per 100,000 mothers die during birth
Fertility rate:           1.8 children per woman
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hospitals:                    148      71,338 persons per hospital
Hospital beds:            101,652         104 persons per hospital bed
Physicians:                32,200         328 persons per physician
Dentists:                   3,988       2,647 persons per dentist
Pharmacists:                4,501       2,346 persons per pharmacist
Nursing personnel:         50,172         210 persons per nurse
Midwifery personnel:        2,613       4,041 persons per midwife
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Medical care expenditures:        2.1% of national budget
Access to local health care:    100.0% with access
Contraception use:               73.0% of married women
Measles immunization:            95.0% infants ( < 12 months) immunized
DPT immunization:                99.5% infants ( < 12 months) immunized
AIDS cases reported:              1.00 per 100,000 persons
+ - Re: question (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

somlo > wrote:

>Why are so low number of messages in hungarian newsgroops?
>Udv: dr Somlo Janos

>http://next-1b.manuf.bme.hu/~somlo


Maybe because those few are very long ;-)
dominus v.
+ - Re: Simandy (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >,  says...
>
>George Kovacs wrote:
>>
>> In article >  (aheringer)
writes:
>>
>> >Ma reggel hallottam a magyar radioban hogy meghalt Simandy Jozsef.
80
>> >eves volt.  A 80 eves szuletesnapjara a magyar operahaz nagy unnepseg
>> >kereteben nekiajandekozta a Bank Ban kosztumot, amiben annyiszor
enekelte
>> >el a Hazam, hazam, te mindenem cimu ariat.
>>
>> >Tavaly itt volt Torontoban.  Itt is elenekelte, de sajnos, jobb lett
>> >volna, ha megtartom emlekeimben ugy, ahogy hoskoraban enekelte.
>> >Beke poraira!
>>
>> >Agnes
>>
>> Azt hiszem, korunk legnagyobb magyar tenorja't sirathatjuk. Ho"stenor
>> szerepekben utole'rhetetlen, lirai dallamokban az egyik legkiva'lo'bb.
>> Nyugodje'k be'ke'ben.
>> GK
>Nem csak, hogy egy sriasi inekes volt, de a vilag legjobb ivspartnere
>is. 1952-ben vagy 53-ban (?) volt szerencsim egy balatongyvrvki villaban
>(mar nem emlikszem ki volt a tulaj, csak arra, hogy valami Kossuth dmjas
>fazon volt), in mint cssrs focista Puskas Vcsin kereszt|l pottyantam
>ebbe a tarsasagba, egy nagy party-n mindenkit az asztal ala ivott.
>Rendkmv|l szimpatikus, kvzvetelen, sztar all|r mentes, baratsagos,
>szellemes, kulturalt egyin volt. Jsska, we will miss you!
>Mellesleg jegyzem meg, hogy Vcsi aprilis 2-an lesz 70 ives. A vilag
>minden szamottevv focistaja ott lesz a Nipstadionban a magyar-ausztral
>(ott volt ivekig sikeres edzv) meccs alatt is utan |nnepelni. Happy
>birthday, Vcsi!

Puskas Ocsirol jut eszembe, hogy elozo heten a Szepesivel volt egy
interview lekozvetitve a magyar radioban, szinten nagyon erdekes volt.

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