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HIX HUNGARY 886
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1997-01-16
Új cikk beküldése (a cikk tartalma az író felelőssége)
Megrendelés Lemondás
1 Re: Kolozsvar (mind)  13 sor     (cikkei)
2 Re: Vambery Arminius (mind)  35 sor     (cikkei)
3 Re: To everybody (mind)  37 sor     (cikkei)
4 Re: The Compromise of 1867 (was:To everybody) (mind)  13 sor     (cikkei)
5 Washington Post on NATO expansion (mind)  9 sor     (cikkei)
6 Re: The Compromise of 1967 (was:To everybody) (mind)  94 sor     (cikkei)
7 Level Gore Alelnok Urnak (mind)  57 sor     (cikkei)
8 Re: The Compromise of 1967 (was:To everybody) (mind)  28 sor     (cikkei)
9 Hungarian history (mind)  23 sor     (cikkei)
10 World War I (was To Everybody before) (mind)  51 sor     (cikkei)
11 Please follow her lead (mind)  115 sor     (cikkei)
12 Please follow her lead (mind)  115 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Re: Kolozsvar (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

At 08:40 PM 1/14/97 -0500, Marina wrote:

>On a lighter note, would you know the Hungarian words to the *old, old*
>song: "Szep varos Kolozsvar, lalalala? a Marosnal ......"  ?

I think it is part of an operetta, I am not sure which one. The start is

"Szep varos Kolozsvar
En ott lakom a Szamosnal"

I don't know the rest.

Gabor D. Farkas
+ - Re: Vambery Arminius (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

At 06:25 AM 1/15/97 -0400, Johanne L. Tournier wrote:

<snip>
>Thanks again! Your library will be hearing from my library! Is it a fair
>assumption that the University of Waterloo has an especially extensive
>Hungarian collection? Does it offer courses in Hungarian and other Central
>and East European studies?

Sorry, but the University of Waterloo does not have an Hungarian collection,
nor does it offer courses in Hungarian.  If I'm not mistaken, I believe that
the University of Toronto offers (or offered) Hungarian language courses.
Three of the books by Vambery Arminius are in English and one is in German.
>Also, I am particularly interested in obtaining some books on Hungarian
>immigration into North America in the early 1900's that would discuss the
>problems the immigrants faced, especially discrimination from "middle
>Americans". Would you have anything like that in your library? And can you
>tell me if it might be possible for me (and other Netizens) to search the
>Library's catalog on-line? I know some university libraries are on line,
>but their catalogs (Univ. of Pennsylvania, for example) are only open to
>registered students.

You can visit our library's home page and search the one million plus items
on our on-line catalog.  The address is:

http://www.lib.uwaterloo.ca/index.html

We have links to all the university libraries in Canada and most of the
major academic libraries in the US.  However, our catalog, and many others,
are only available using "telnet".  If you don't have telnet you can
download it from our "watcat" page.  Also, if you're interested, you can
access the complete Oxford English Dictionary from our home page.

I hope this helps.

Joe Szalai
+ - Re: To everybody (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

E.Balogh wrote:

>>This is a nonsense (at least in my opinion). There could have been a
 compromise
>>20-30 years earlier at most. Would this extra time have changed anything?
>
>        Twenty-thirty years earlier? That would have put things to 1837 or
>1847. Neither date makes any sense.

Eva, I was not talking about dates, but time ranges. Don't take everything
 literally.

> Moreover, I wasn't talking about twenty
>or thirty years earlier. More like two centuries. Moreover, since when you
>are so sure that "there could have been a compromise 20-30 years earlier *at
>most.*" Pray, why, "at most"? We could have done differently already at the
>end of the seventeenth-century.

What kind of compromise are you talking about?!? To me 1867 represents the
beginning of the constitutional monarchy (alkotmanyos monarchia), with
constitution, elected government and parlament. This allowed the development
of a more or less civil society (polgari tarsadalom) and the industry and
economy. Such things were impossible in the XVIIth century, at least in Hungary
.
This was the time when England become constitutional monarchy!

>>Sorry, if I was confusing. My point was that a large-scale conflict in
>>Europe was inevitable and Austro-Hungary would have been an ally of
>>Germany no matter where and how the conflict had been initiated.
>
>        There is no such thing as inevitability in history. World War I
>wasn't inevitable either.

Do you really think if Austria-Hungary had not declared war on Serbia
there would not have been WWI ?

J.Zs
+ - Re: The Compromise of 1867 (was:To everybody) (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

At 11:15 PM 1/15/97 +0000, Eva Durant wrote:
>When was the 50 golden years of the Monarchy?
>I was told (on this list, and by you Eva B) that
>the millions of landless and starving peasants left
>Hungary at the beginning of this century for America.

        Yes, golden age in comparison to what had been before and what came
after. Rapid economic development began to aleviate the agricultural
overpopulation by employing the agricultural poor in industry. And yes, a
lot of people emigrated from the poorer counties, the mostly
Slovak-inhabited Zemplen, Saros, Ugocsa, etc. But yearly 6-7 percent
economic growth is not to sneaze at.
        Eva Balogh
+ - Washington Post on NATO expansion (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Please look at this Tuesday's editorial page by Henry Kissinger on NATO
expansion.
He takes the view that the US gov't has not done enough to help out the
central European and Eastern European countries and left them in limbo.

His contention is that NATO should be expanded ASAP to give a cohesive
unity to Europe and have the CE & EE countries a feeling of security.

 .Peter Soltesz
+ - Re: The Compromise of 1967 (was:To everybody) (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Eva Balogh writes:


>At 08:25 PM 1/14/97 -0500, Ferenc Novak, the infallible historian, wrote:

I am sorry but the insertion of this type adjectives is what starts the
floods that then plug up the system. Nobody is "infallible", particularly in
the realm of history.
Would it not be better to stay with the discussion instead immediately
getting into personality comments. All discussions always only deteriorate
from there.

>
>        In case, your elementary-school teacher neglected to tell you: there
>was a civil war in Hungary. Practically all the important nationalities rose
>against the Hungarians: the Croats, the Romanians, the Slovaks, and the
>Serbs. There was a bloody civil war indeed within the countries of the Crown
>of St. Stephen.

Parts of all of the important nationalities rose against the Hungarian
revolution and mainly based on the spiritual, finacial and military
assistance of the Habsburghs.
Many of them were also very disappointed immediately after the fall in 1849
and even more of them after 1867. The Habsburghs were applying whatever was
expedient to stay
in the charge of the region. The region was their playground.

>        Indeed, the "Cassandra Letter." According to all modern historians
>inside and outside of Hungary Kossuth did a terrible disservice to his
>country by condemning a very advantageous compromise with the Crown.

The compromise was an accomodation, which while improving industrialization
of Hungary, did subordinate the interests of Hungary to that of the Austrian
rulers. It was a similar arrangement as made by Kadar, it was a compromise
which in the long term failed .

>        And this brings to mind something I just read in the Magyar Hirlap
>(January 11, 1997, Saturday) by Gyula Kurucz, a writer and translator. The
>title of his piece is:  [In freely translated
>English: Even the by now completely dead "Hungarian bravado" has turned
>against us in the last few centuries: we always resorted to it when it was
>not to our advantage, when we acted against reason. At the same time in our
>common consciousness there is no glory surrounding our peaceful fifty-years
>of the Monarchy, when indeed the country moved rapidly forward, when the
>majority of the population felt that their star was rising. It is most
>likely that for the lower and middle-classes those decades seemed like a
>golden age, the measure of our desires while the picture depicting the
>Ausgleich as the abandonment of our national independence was a later
>construct.]

I disgree with the glorification of the post Ausgleich times. It was better
than what was before for many, but it also resulted in a large "voting by
their feet" for not only minorities  but masses of Hungarians and many of
those Hungarians left from mixed ethnic areas. At least our searches of my
wife's family, who left in those days, showed that most of those who left
were not agricultural workers, but blacksmiths, stonecutters, seamstresses,
i.e. folks with some training in areas where their knowledge could be
utilized in other lands also.

>        Surely, Kurucz is talking about 1848 and 1867 and our totally wrong
>national perception of these two events. Our suicidal tendency to do the
>wrong thing and belittle the important.

You are again placing it in a black or white basis. Mahap our knowledge is
not "totally" wrong. I would agree that any onesided analysis of those
events is wrong, but that is true for either side. Including the
pro-Habsburgh flag carriers.

>
>        I am not quite sure where you got the idea that there is a
>historical school which claims that "the bond that tied the country to
>Austria resulting in Hungary being dragged into a war for Austrian
>interests, resulting in what followed." Because, you see, exactly the
>opposite is true. Hungary was threatened by Serbia not Austria!! Serbia's
>thriving for Greater Serbia could affect Hungary much more seriously than
>Austria. Austria without Hungary would have most likely never got involved
>in the affairs of the Balkans.

I am sorry, but Austria was much more interested in the Balkans than
Hungary. Even before the Ausgleich (at which time there was no such thing as
independent - or mabe any - Hungarian foreign policy). Austria had its eyes
on the Balkan. Every power
in those days was expansionist and Austria had no place to expand to but
into the Balkans (that shows in retrospect how much they really knew about
the region).
The war against Serbia was a mania in Austrian military circles for a long
time before the outbreak of WW I. And please remember that ever since the
Turkish wars Austria
was involved in the Balkans and when their role diminished in other German
and Italian lands, the only direction for their megalomania was the poor
Balkan lands. The documentation, I am aware of, whows that it was not at the
instigation of Hungary.

Regards,Jeliko.
+ - Level Gore Alelnok Urnak (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Tisztelt Honfitarsam!

Kerem kuldjek el az alabbi vagy ahhoz hasonlo levelet az Egyesult Allamok
alelnokenek. Mint a Magyar Lobbi korabbi akcioibol megtanultuk, tobbszaz
level kell ahhoz, hogy Gore alelnok egyaltalan tudomast szerezzen
keresunkrol, s (mint az Iliescu akcioban lattuk) legalabb ezer ahhoz, hogy
felkeruljon a Duna ugye a "fontos teendok listajara."

Ezert nagyon kerem Ont, hogy ne torulje le ezt az uzenetet, de KULDJE EL A
MELLEKELT levelet, s ami legalabb olyan fontos, KERJE MEG BARATAIT,
ISMEROSEIT, hogy tegyek ugyanezt.

Egyutt megvedjuk a Dunat!

Koszonettel: Liptak Bela

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Formalevel: Ezt vagy ehhez hasonlot kuldjon On es barati kore
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The Honorable Al Gore
Vice President of the United States
(e-mail: )

RE: Please Help Save the Blue Danube

Dear Mr. Vice President,

Mankind is approaching an importanat precedent: The first international
environmental lawsuit is coming up in a few weeks at the International Court
of Justice in The Hague.

The Court will decide on a case involving the Danube and the destruction of
its ancient wetland region, the Szigetkoz. (Szigetkoz means "Thousand
Islands," but today there is not a single island left, as the water is gone.)
Still, the implications of this case go beyond the future of just one river
or just one wetland ecosystem. This lawsuit will set a precedent for the
whole planet and will decide on a much more basic question, which is: "Do
national governments have the right to do as they please with the ecosystem
of this planet, or does mankind have the right to protect the natural
threasures of the planet?"

In 1995, nine international environmental NGOs have submitted a "Memorial" to
the Court, which its president, the Honorable Mohammed Bedjaoui has accepted.
Also submitted to the ICJ was a Compromise Plan, which would guarantee the
restoration of this ancient wetland region tougether with fulfilling the
water supply, energy and shipping needs of the region. For details of this
plan and for other aspects of the lawsuit, please visit the web-site at:
http://www.goodpoint.com/duna.htm

Dear Mr. Vice President. It is important that the first international
environmental lawsuit be given the attention it deserves. A statement by you,
can guarantee that attention. Please make that statement.

Respectfully yours,

Your name, title, address
+ - Re: The Compromise of 1967 (was:To everybody) (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

At 10:35 AM 1/16/97 -0500, Jeliko wrote:
>Eva Balogh writes:
>
>
>>At 08:25 PM 1/14/97 -0500, Ferenc Novak, the infallible historian, wrote:
>
>I am sorry but the insertion of this type adjectives is what starts the
>floods that then plug up the system.

        In order to have things straight, let me quote you what prompted me
to be sarcastic:

Ferenc Novak:

>Gladly.  I appreciate the fact that 19th century Hungarian history is not
>your field of specialization.  But I am still puzzled how someone, who claims
>to have been educated in Hungary, can be so uninformed about the 1948-49 war
>of independence.

        When Mr. Novak will not make disparaging remarks of this sort, then
Eva Balogh will not be sarcastic.

        As for the rest of your historical analysis of the Ausgleich and
consequences, including the analysis of Austria-Hungary and the First World
War, I don't wish to engage in these historical discussions. You have your
opinions, and I have mine. Let's leave it that way,

        Eva Balogh
+ - Hungarian history (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Dear Readers;

It is fascinating reading your discussions on Hungarian history. It is
obvious, that at least some of you, could possibly use some reference
material before sounding off.
To help alleviate your problems please make use of our growing library. We
have - at the moment - seven well known English language books on the line,
you are welcome to read, or download.

"Dial":

http://www.net.hu/corvinus

You could find  something interesting on these places too:

http://www.mastate.edu/archives/history/hungary

http:www.mediarange.com/media/huncor/huncor.htm

Good hunting,


Magyarody Szabolcs
+ - World War I (was To Everybody before) (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

At 02:33 AM 1/16/97 -0500, Janos Zsargo wrote:
>E.Balogh wrote:

>>        Twenty-thirty years earlier? That would have put things to 1837 or
>>1847. Neither date makes any sense.
>
>Eva, I was not talking about dates, but time ranges. Don't take everything
> literally.

        It doesn't even make sense if we don't take it literally, only
approximately.

>What kind of compromise are you talking about?!? To me 1867 represents the
>beginning of the constitutional monarchy (alkotmanyos monarchia), with
>constitution, elected government and parlament.

        Certainly not a constitutional monarchy because that wasn't in the
books before the second half of the nineteenth century. What I meant was an
arrangement by which the Hungarian nobility didn't insisted on some of their
prerogatives. Yes, it may have infringed on ancient rights and yes, it may
have made Hungary a more integral part of the empire--a la
Bohemia-Moravia--but so what. In the long run the Czechs didn't disappear
from the face of the earth as a nation, they still managed to develop a
healthy middle class and middle-class values and became more
democratically-minded than we did. What I am saying is that the "horrible
fate" the Czech nobility suffered in the seventeenth century *in the long
run* [emphasis here] was to the advantage of the country. All the apparent
gains we made were most likely not to our advantage, again, in the long run.

>Do you really think if Austria-Hungary had not declared war on Serbia
>there would not have been WWI ?

        As I said: there is no inevitability in history. It wouldn't have
had happened then. It may have broken out later in some other way but not in
August 1914. There were a couple of other scenarios which we may
contemplate: (1) Austria-Hungary doesn't wait that long only not to have
proof of Serbia's complicity and strike immediately after the assassination.
World public opinion was very much in favor of Austria-Hungary because of
the assassination. Some historians proposed that such immediate strike would
have had a different outcome. (2) Let's say that Austria-Hungary waited but
didn't receive a blank check from Germany. The war could have been
localized. (3) Let's assume that the Russian general staff had a more
flexible military plan and could have initiated a partial mobilization as
opposed to their only plan which entailed full mobilization along the German
border as well. Some historians claimed that such a strategy might have had
a different reaction from Germany.

        In any case, there were most likely many, many possible scenarios
depending on who did what when.

        Eva Balogh
+ - Please follow her lead (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Kedves B=E9la!

Az al=E1bbi levelet egy New York-i bar=E1tom k=FCldte H=E1g=E1ba. Hozz=E1=
j=E1rult, hogy a
HL lek=F6z=F6lje, de azzal a felt=E9tellel, hogy a teljes nev=E9t, c=EDm=E9=
t, telefonj=E1t
ne publik=E1ljuk. Egyed=FCl=E9l=F5 h=F6lgy New York-ban, teh=E1t a k=E9r=E9=
se teljesen
indokolt. Amennyiben azonban =E9rintkez=E9sbe akarsz vele l=E9pni, k=FCl=F6=
n elk=FCld=F6m
c=EDm=E9t =E9s telefonsz=E1m=E1t.
M=E1solatot k=FCld=F6tt a New York-i magyar f=F5konzul=E1tusnak, valamint=
 Eva Zelig,
TV documentary producer-nek, amennyiben a cseh sz=E1rmaz=E1s=FA Ms. Zelig=
-et az
=FCgy professzion=E1lisan =E9rdekeln=E9.
=D6lel,

Laci

---------------------

January 11, 1997

The Honorable Mohammed Bedjaoui
President, International Court of Justice
Carnegieplein 2, 2517 KJ, Den Haag
The Netherlands

Re:	The Compromise Plan to return the Danube River into its natural river=
 bed


Dear Judge Bedjaoui:

How do you do.  By way of introduction, I am an American medical journali=
st
who has long been an admirer of the Danube River, its history, its
environmental beauty and its meaning to past, present, and future
generations.  I am shocked and saddened to learn that the changes that ar=
e
taking place at this beloved riverbed are not only destroying a precious
part of the world's history but are also impacting negatively on human li=
fe,
present and future.  We cannot allow such a tragedy to happen.
With this in mind, I would like to join hands with the many concerned peo=
ple
around the world who are hopeful that the Compromise Plan will be enacted.
This plan would return the Danube into its natural riverbed by eliminatin=
g
the temporary Cunovo (Dunacsun) dam, the C-variant, and by starting up th=
e
Dunakiliti dam.  Gabcikovo (Box) would be made safe by providing it with =
ice
handling capability.  Shipping would be guaranteed through both the natur=
al
riverbed and through the canal.  The various parties would benefit from t=
he
Compromise Plan as follows:
=B7 Hungary would regain her border river, her wetlands in the Szigetkoz =
and
her drinking water supplies.  She would receive all the electricity
generated at Dunakiliti, which could be used to fulfill her obligations t=
o
Austria;
=B7 Slovakia would receive all of the electricity generated at Gabcikovo
(Bos).  When the flow in the river is low, Gabcikovo (Bos) would not
generate electricity, but shipping would still continue on the otherwise
stagnant canal.  On a yearly average, Slovakia would still receive the sa=
me
amount of electricity as if she got 50% of the total potential of the
jointly owned border river.
=B7 In addition, Slovakia would retain her port at Bratislava and would e=
nd up
wih a safe facility at Gabcikovo (Bos).
=B7 The European Community would benefit from relieable, year-around ship=
ping
through both the Gabcikovo (Bos) canal and throng the natural Danube
riverbed, by the additional of a second, larger lock at Dunakiliti.  The =
EC
would be expected to provide Slovakia with electricity during Gabcikovo's
reconstruction.

=B7 The United States would demonstrate that a just and non-violent "new =
world
order" is feasible and a permanent solution is possible with an investmen=
t
which is equivalent of the cost of a few weeks of peace-keeping in Bosnia=
;=20
=B7 o The World would save and return into its orginal state, one of the
planet's richest ecosystems which has survived since the last Ice Age.
=B7  In addition, a legal precedent would be established, showing that ri=
vers
and wetland regions are not the properties of nationals, but are the comm=
on
treasures of all humankind.
=B7 The region would benefit, not only by the restoration of its agricult=
ure
and drinkng water supplies, but also by receiving thousands of jobs durin=
g
the reconstruction of the dam system, and later through ecotourism.  From
Hainburg to Gonyu, the region would become an international nature
presevation part, operated as an "European Free Zone," where all resident=
s
(Austrians, Hungarians, and Slovaks), could freely travel or take jobs.
This sense of regional community and interdependence could later become t=
he
catalyst for a wider reconciliation in central Europe.

Like many other concerned citizens of the world, I look forward to a happ=
y
solution to the present problems.  Thank you for taking the time to read
this letter and petition for the Compromise Plan.

Sincerely,
+ - Please follow her lead (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Kedves B=E9la!

Az al=E1bbi levelet egy New York-i bar=E1tom k=FCldte H=E1g=E1ba. Hozz=E1=
j=E1rult, hogy a
HL lek=F6z=F6lje, de azzal a felt=E9tellel, hogy a teljes nev=E9t, c=EDm=E9=
t, telefonj=E1t
ne publik=E1ljuk. Egyed=FCl=E9l=F5 h=F6lgy New York-ban, teh=E1t a k=E9r=E9=
se teljesen
indokolt. Amennyiben azonban =E9rintkez=E9sbe akarsz vele l=E9pni, k=FCl=F6=
n elk=FCld=F6m
c=EDm=E9t =E9s telefonsz=E1m=E1t.
M=E1solatot k=FCld=F6tt a New York-i magyar f=F5konzul=E1tusnak, valamint=
 Eva Zelig,
TV documentary producer-nek, amennyiben a cseh sz=E1rmaz=E1s=FA Ms. Zelig=
-et az
=FCgy professzion=E1lisan =E9rdekeln=E9.
=D6lel,

Laci

---------------------

January 11, 1997

The Honorable Mohammed Bedjaoui
President, International Court of Justice
Carnegieplein 2, 2517 KJ, Den Haag
The Netherlands

Re:     The Compromise Plan to return the Danube River into its natural river=
 bed


Dear Judge Bedjaoui:

How do you do.  By way of introduction, I am an American medical journali=
st
who has long been an admirer of the Danube River, its history, its
environmental beauty and its meaning to past, present, and future
generations.  I am shocked and saddened to learn that the changes that ar=
e
taking place at this beloved riverbed are not only destroying a precious
part of the world's history but are also impacting negatively on human li=
fe,
present and future.  We cannot allow such a tragedy to happen.
With this in mind, I would like to join hands with the many concerned peo=
ple
around the world who are hopeful that the Compromise Plan will be enacted.
This plan would return the Danube into its natural riverbed by eliminatin=
g
the temporary Cunovo (Dunacsun) dam, the C-variant, and by starting up th=
e
Dunakiliti dam.  Gabcikovo (Box) would be made safe by providing it with =
ice
handling capability.  Shipping would be guaranteed through both the natur=
al
riverbed and through the canal.  The various parties would benefit from t=
he
Compromise Plan as follows:
=B7 Hungary would regain her border river, her wetlands in the Szigetkoz =
and
her drinking water supplies.  She would receive all the electricity
generated at Dunakiliti, which could be used to fulfill her obligations t=
o
Austria;
=B7 Slovakia would receive all of the electricity generated at Gabcikovo
(Bos).  When the flow in the river is low, Gabcikovo (Bos) would not
generate electricity, but shipping would still continue on the otherwise
stagnant canal.  On a yearly average, Slovakia would still receive the sa=
me
amount of electricity as if she got 50% of the total potential of the
jointly owned border river.
=B7 In addition, Slovakia would retain her port at Bratislava and would e=
nd up
wih a safe facility at Gabcikovo (Bos).
=B7 The European Community would benefit from relieable, year-around ship=
ping
through both the Gabcikovo (Bos) canal and throng the natural Danube
riverbed, by the additional of a second, larger lock at Dunakiliti.  The =
EC
would be expected to provide Slovakia with electricity during Gabcikovo's
reconstruction.

=B7 The United States would demonstrate that a just and non-violent "new =
world
order" is feasible and a permanent solution is possible with an investmen=
t
which is equivalent of the cost of a few weeks of peace-keeping in Bosnia=
;=20
=B7 o The World would save and return into its orginal state, one of the
planet's richest ecosystems which has survived since the last Ice Age.
=B7  In addition, a legal precedent would be established, showing that ri=
vers
and wetland regions are not the properties of nationals, but are the comm=
on
treasures of all humankind.
=B7 The region would benefit, not only by the restoration of its agricult=
ure
and drinkng water supplies, but also by receiving thousands of jobs durin=
g
the reconstruction of the dam system, and later through ecotourism.  From
Hainburg to Gonyu, the region would become an international nature
presevation part, operated as an "European Free Zone," where all resident=
s
(Austrians, Hungarians, and Slovaks), could freely travel or take jobs.
This sense of regional community and interdependence could later become t=
he
catalyst for a wider reconciliation in central Europe.

Like many other concerned citizens of the world, I look forward to a happ=
y
solution to the present problems.  Thank you for taking the time to read
this letter and petition for the Compromise Plan.

Sincerely,

AGYKONTROLL ALLAT AUTO AZSIA BUDAPEST CODER DOSZ FELVIDEK FILM FILOZOFIA FORUM GURU HANG HIPHOP HIRDETES HIRMONDO HIXDVD HUDOM HUNGARY JATEK KEP KONYHA KONYV KORNYESZ KUKKER KULTURA LINUX MAGELLAN MAHAL MOBIL MOKA MOZAIK NARANCS NARANCS1 NY NYELV OTTHON OTTHONKA PARA RANDI REJTVENY SCM SPORT SZABAD SZALON TANC TIPP TUDOMANY UK UTAZAS UTLEVEL VITA WEBMESTER WINDOWS