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1997-06-04
Új cikk beküldése (a cikk tartalma az író felelőssége)
Megrendelés Lemondás
1 Re: A Critique of the Soros Foundation (mind)  18 sor     (cikkei)
2 KrimiExpo in Budapest - (mind)  234 sor     (cikkei)
3 New York Times on President Goncz (mind)  26 sor     (cikkei)
4 SUPPORT ROMANIA'S NATO INTEGRATION!!! (mind)  77 sor     (cikkei)
5 HL-Action: letter to Clinton/Gore/Albright (mind)  228 sor     (cikkei)
6 Re: European Elections and Hungary (mind)  15 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Re: A Critique of the Soros Foundation (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

At 08:53 PM 6/3/97 -0400, you wrote:
>At 06:23 PM 6/3/97 -0400, Eva Balogh wrote:
>
>>At 09:43 AM 6/1/97 -0400, Joe Szalai wrote:
>>
>>>The scepter that is haunting Europe, America, and Asia is a
known force.
>>>It is called corporatism.
>>
>>        That was quite a boo-boo. ESB
>
>Why?  Does it remind you of something?
>
>Joe Szalai

She MAY be referring to the malapropism......

Andrew
+ - KrimiExpo in Budapest - (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

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> Fellow Netters,
>
>    This may interest some of you. I have gotten this info. from the ITN
> News in London.
>                  Amos

  PS - I guess the new address is not operational yet.

> >
> >         BUDAPEST: KrimiExpo
> >
> >         International crime, and the Budapest police force's
> >         bungled attempts to counter it, has been the news item
> >         of 1997, so this year's KrimiExpo should be more
> >         popular than ever. Four days' worth of the latest
> >         security tricks and devices, with sideshows like a
> >         prize-winning original crime story competition (first
> >         prize - a pair of golden handcuffs!), talks by various
> >         police chiefs, and no doubt undercover spying by mafia
> >         goons. The most entertaining trade fair in the
> >         Hungarian calendar. Jun 4-7, 10am-5pm, Budapest
> >         Kongresszusi Kozpont, XII. Jagello ut 1/3
> >         (information: Compexpo 117 6760)
> >
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Fellow Netters,

   This may interest some of you. I have gotten this info. from the ITN
News in London.
                 Amos

>
>         BUDAPEST: KrimiExpo
>
>         International crime, and the Budapest police force's
>         bungled attempts to counter it, has been the news item
>         of 1997, so this year's KrimiExpo should be more
>         popular than ever. Four days' worth of the latest
>         security tricks and devices, with sideshows like a
>         prize-winning original crime story competition (first
>         prize - a pair of golden handcuffs!), talks by various
>         police chiefs, and no doubt undercover spying by mafia
>         goons. The most entertaining trade fair in the
>         Hungarian calendar. Jun 4-7, 10am-5pm, Budapest
>         Kongresszusi Kozpont, XII. Jagello ut 1/3
>         (information: Compexpo 117 6760)
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        sites on the web</strong></font></td>
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        <td><p><font face="Times New Roman"><b>AMSTERDAM: Holland
        Festival</b></font></p>
        <p><font face="Times New Roman">Rich pickings indeed for
        culture vultures at this highbrow multi-genre shindig
        which brings together top Dutch and international
        theatrical, musical, and dance ensembles. This year
        features the performance of much of composer Matthijs
        Vermeulen's oeuvre, a large-scale production of Mauricio
        Kagel's opera 'Aus Deutschland', Robert Wilson in a solo
        piece titled 'Hamlet, A Monologue', the Royal National
        Theatre's production of Harold Pinter's 'The Homecoming',
        and special series concentrating on tango and music of
        the Caribbean. Until Jun 30, various times and venues
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 <b>KrimiExpo</b></font></p>
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        the Budapest police force's bungled attempts to counter
        it, has been the news item of 1997, so this year's
        KrimiExpo should be more popular than ever. Four days'
        worth of the latest security tricks and devices, with
        sideshows like a prize-winning original crime story
        competition (first prize - a pair of golden handcuffs!),
        talks by various police chiefs, and no doubt undercover
        spying by mafia goons. The most entertaining trade fair
        in the Hungarian calendar. Jun 4-7, 10am-5pm, Budapest
        Kongresszusi Kozpont, XII. Jagello ut 1/3 (information:
        Compexpo 117 6760)</font></p>
        <p><font face="Times New Roman"><b>PRAGUE:</b> <b>Nick
        Cave and the Bad Seeds</b></font></p>
        <p><font face="Times New Roman">With near-deity status in
        Prague, Nick Cave will be lucky to escape his two
        concerts here with even a shred of his clothes on. Or
        would be, if his dark and twisted lyricism inspired that
        sort of adoration. More likely are funereal shrines in
        bedrooms all over Prague, where avid worshippers are
        playing the slowest tracks of his latest album, 'The
        Boatman's Call', which is full of highly personal,
        predictably morose and unusually spiritual songs. Jun
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+ - New York Times on President Goncz (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Dear Colleagues,

On page 4 of the june 4th issue if NYTimes, Jane Perlez reports on the Pope's
mass in Gniezno where he celebrated the 1000th anniversary of the death of
the missionary St. Adalbert. He asked the 6 Presidents (Czech, Hungarian,
Polish, Ukranian, Lithuanian, Slovak) to emulate St. Adalbert, who tried to
bring different peoples tougether. In his reply (apparently in the name of
the 6), President Goncz praised the Pope's choice of an example and stated
that the spirit of St. Adalbert is the reality of the new Central Europe.

This article gives us an excellent opportunity to talk about the "csango
reality" of todays Central Europe and about what President Goncz might have
had to say about that in private. (This time I can not write, because the
NYTimes just yesterday published a letter of mine. Written on the 2nd,
published on the 3rd.) Therefore, I would like to ask you to write and bring
the issue of the csangos to the attention of the world.

Please write today, and please make your letter short: 3-4 sentences, because
the Times has recently switched to that format and send it by E-Mail to:


Best regards: Bela Liptak



 Please
+ - SUPPORT ROMANIA'S NATO INTEGRATION!!! (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Dear friends,

we can reach more for our brethrens in Erdely if Romania is a member
of the NATO. Since the organization keeps an eye on the members,
violations of basic human rights are hardly concealable.
THEREFORE HELP THE HUNGARIAN MINORITY IN ERDELY BY
SUPPORTING THE ROMANIAN NATO INTEGRATION!

I am still collecting signatures for the attached declaration. You
do not have to be a member of the Hungarian Lobby to join it.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU WISH TO SIGN THE DECLARATION
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!

You may do that by sending a message/reply to this document with
Your name, and address (city,state,country) to Peter Orban:



The names and addresses will be totalized under a letter-document and
forwarded to the Diaspora Romana by Friday,June 6,1997.

Best wishes
Peter Orban

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xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
send reply to:

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To:                                         June 6th,1997
     Diaspora Romana,
     806 E.Carson Street#118-109
     Carson,CA 90745
     Phone:(310)549-0547
     Fax:  (310)549-6231

   Members of the Hungarian Lobby are deeply interested in the
future of East-Central Europe, and recognize the need for simultaneous
integration of the countries of the region into NATO. This would
stabilize the whole region and assure the orderly transition toward
democracy and market economy, without the turmoil seen in the former
Yugoslavia.

Romania, a country of 23 milion people, with affinity toward western
culture, at the same time represents the best potential base of
stability in the Balkans.

Romania's ongoing political democratization and reorganization of all
central and local governmental institutions, the inclusion of the
large Hungarian minority in the government, and the expected
subsequent satisfaction of legitimate minority claims are -- and may
become -- positive examples for the countries of the region.

A look at the map of Europe shows Romania to be the gateway to the
East. Only through this gateway will it be possible to access the
heart of Europe, and the key that will allow this gateway to stay open
-- and to defend it effectively at the same time -- is NATO membership
for Romania.

With an important economic potential due to a large and fertile
agricultural area, her metallurgical and defense industries ready to
produce for her allies, possessing the biggest maritime port in
Eastern Europe, with a multiethnic population and large urban
comunities, Romania is just as much an important future partner and
ally of the European Community and of NATO as are Poland, the Czech
Republic, and Hungary.

For all the above considerations, members of the Hungarian Lobby,who
during the last six months learned, along the the members of Diaspora
Romana, to cooperate in promoting the cause of democratic
transformation oin Eastern-Central Europe,support  the inclusion of
Romania, along with Hungary, the Czech Republic and Poland, among the
first group of countries to be integrated into NATO.

   Members of the Hungarian Lobby :
   List with name, title, address
+ - HL-Action: letter to Clinton/Gore/Albright (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

****************** CALL FOR ACTION ****************

Priority:
   normal

Background:
  Hungary's position in the Danube lawsuit at the International Court
of Justice in The Hague is very promising. However, even if the court
rules in favour for the environment it is possible that the Slovak
government does not accept the verdict.
  It is important that influential politicians of USA support our
position, since in this case Slovakia probably does not dare to reject
the decision of the court.

What to do:
   Please ask president Clinton, vice president Al Gore and secretary
of state Albright to make a statement in favour for the environment of
Szigetkoz. Feel free to use the attached NEW form letter. Al Gore and
Albright will only take notice if he receives thousands of letters.
SAVE THE DANUBE!!
        SEND SEVERAL LETTERS A DAY!!! PLEASE DO NOT ONLY
        SEND THEM BY E-MAIL! Send them even by fax or
        "priority mail".

e-mail address of Clinton:
president@ whitehouse.gov

e-mail address of Al Gore:


e-mail address of Albright:


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letter to Clinton:
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Honorable Bill Clinton
President of the United States
The White House
Washington, D.C. 20001
(E-Mail: president@ whitehouse.gov)

RE:  First Environmental Lawsuit (Danube) in The Hague

Dear Mr. President:

On the 21st of August, 1993, Vice President Gore wrote to professor
Bela Liptak about his concern for the future of the Danube ecosystem
at Szigetkoz. Today, we are approaching an important precedent: This
year the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in The Hague will rule
on the first international environmental lawsuit.

By the end of the year, the ICJ will decide on this case involving the
Danube and the destruction of its ancient wetland region: the
Szigetkoz. This name, losely translated, means: "The region of a
thousand islands," yet today there are no islands left there, because
the water is gone. Still, the implications of this case go beyond the
future of just one river or just the 400 endangered species of the
only inland sea delta ecosystem of Europe.

This lawsuit will set a precedent for the whole planet and will
answer a much more basic question:  Do national governments have the
right to destroy the natural treasures of this planet, or does mankind
as a whole have the right to protect them?

Dear Mr. President, in 1995, nine international NGOs have submitted a
memorial to the ICJ, which the Court accepted. A Compromise Plan was
also submitted to the Court, which would guarantee the restoration of
the ancient Szigetkoz wetlands, together with fulfilling the
water-supply, shipping and energy needs of the region. For details,
information is available at the web-site:
http://www.goodpoint.com/duna.htm or from prof. Liptak.

Dear Mr. Clinton. There is little question, that in October, the ICJ
will order Slovakia to return the Danube into its natural riverbed and
will also order the restoration of the Szigetkoz wetlands. But the ICJ
has no powers to enforce its rulings. Therefore it will be up to the
international community to force the parties to the lawsuit to obey
the ruling. This being the first international environmental lawsuit
before the ICJ, the outcome will establish an important precedent. All
governments must understand that there is a price to be paid for being
admitted into the European Community or into NATO. That price must
include the respect for international law. A statement by you, would
guarantee that the parties understand this. Please make that
statement.

Respectfully yours,

<name, title, address>


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letter to Gore:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

<date>

The Honorable Al Gore
Vice President of the United States
The White House
Washington, D.C. 20001
(e-mail: )


RE:  First Environmental Lawsuit (Danube) in The Hague


Dear Mr. Vice President,

On the 21st of August, 1993, you wrote to professor Bela Liptak about
your concern for the Danube ecosystem. Today, humankind is approaching
an important precedent: By the end of 1997 the International Court of
Justice will rule on the first international environmental lawsuit in
The Hague.

By this fall the ICJ will decide on this case involving the Danube and
the destruction of its ancient wetland region: the Szigetkoz. This
name, loosely translated, means: "The region of a thousand islands,"
yet today there are no islands left there because the water is gone.
Still, the implications of this case go beyond the future of just one
river or just the 400 endangered species of the only inland-sea delta
of Europe.

This lawsuit will set a precedent for the whole planet and will
answer a much more basic question:  Do national governments have the
right to destroy  the natural treasures of this planet, or does
humankind as a whole have the right to protect them?

Mr. Vice President, in 1995 nine international NGOs have submitted a
memorial to ICJ, which the Court accepted. A Compromise Plan was also
submitted to the Court, which would guarantee the restoration of the
ancient Szigetkoz wetlands, together with fulfilling the water-supply,
shipping, and energy needs of the region. For details of this plan,
information is available at the Web site:
http://www.goodpoint.com/duna.htm or from prof. Liptak.

Dear Mr. Gore. There is little question that in October the ICJ
will order Slovakia to return the Danube into its natural riverbed and
will also order the restoration of the Szigetkoz wetlands. But the ICJ
has no powers to enforce its rulings. It will, therefore, be up to the
international community to force the parties to obey the ruling. Since
this is the first international environmental lawsuit before the ICJ,
the outcome will establish an important precedent. All governments
must understand that there is a price to be paid for being admitted
into the European Community or into NATO. That price must include
respect for international law. A statement by you would guarantee that
the parties understand this. Please make that statement.

Respectfully yours,

<Your name, title and address>


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letter to Albright:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

<date>

The Honorable Madeleine Albright
United States Secretary of State
United States Department of State
Washington, DC 20520
( E-Mail:  )

RE: First Environmental Lawsuit (Danube) in The Hague

Dear Madame Secretary,

Please accept my congratulations on your well-deserved appointment. I
do hope that your leadership will contribute to progress and stability
in Central Europe.

Madame Secretary, you now have a great opportunity to set a new tone
for American policy in connection with international environmental
standards in general and with the Danube lawsuit in particular, which
is in progress at the International Court of Justice in the Hague.
This new tone would be consistent with the US policy of expanding
Western structures to Eastern and Central Europe. It would also engage
the US more actively in helping resolve emerging inter-country
conflicts in the Region (i) by urging your West European partners to
assist more pro-actively, and (ii) by calling on both parties (Hungary
and Slovakia) to accept the Compromise Plan prepared by the
environmental NGOs and thereby cooperate in the quest for a solution
that can set an example for the future.

Your help in resolving the Danube problem would also be consistent
with the present US policy based on a global approach to environmental
issues and based on seeking to mobilize all relevant political
(multilateral, international, non-governmental, and civic society)
forces to assist in avoiding environmental catastrophes caused by
bilateral agreements that have been drawn up by non-representative
governments under a regional policy framework which was imposed by
Moscow.

This, the first international environmental lawsuit in human
history, also involves the United States, because it was the Paris
Peace Treaty which set the border between Czechoslovakia and Hungary,
and it was that Treaty which named the Great Powers as the guarantors
of the integrity of the two nations' territories. The Treaty also
stated that the two nations DO NOT have the right to change their
border, unless the Great Powers first approve of the change. Yet in
1977, under Soviet direction, the two nations signed a contract to
move the Danube, previously their border river, into an artificial
canal on Slovak territory. By so doing, they did not ask  nor did they
receive, the approval of the Great Powers. Therefore, the Moscow
initiated 1977 Contract was and is INHERENTLY INVALID, and the Danube
must be returned into its riverbed.

Madame Secretary. There is little question, that in the fall, the
International Court of Justice will order Slovakia to return the
Danube into its natural riverbed and will also order the restoration
of the Szigetkoz wetlands. But, as you know, the ICJ has no powers to
enforce its rulings. Therefore, it will be up to the international
community to force Slovakia to obey the ruling. Since this is the
first international environmental lawsuit before the ICJ, the outcome
will establish an important precedent. It must be understood that
there is a price to be paid for being admitted into the European
Community or into NATO. That price must include respect for
international law. A statement by you, would guarantee that the
parties understand this. Please make that statement.

Respectfully yours,

<Your name, address, title>
+ - Re: European Elections and Hungary (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

At 11:54 AM 6/3/97 +0100, Eva Durant wrote:

<snip>
>The french are actually saying things - such as 35 hours
>working week without loss of pay. That makes sense in the
>high unemployment scenario - but I cannot see it being
>implemented in the present capitalist framework.

I can.  The framework can stay capitalist but the rules and regulations
governing working conditions must be global.  And that's where the
difficulty lies.  It's often difficult to ensure local compliance with
labour laws.  Global laws and compliance seems daunting but there is no
other alternative.

Joe Szalai

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