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1 subscribe Hungary-l Stephen R. Day (mind)  1 sor     (cikkei)
2 Re: Pompousness (was: Post Anarchism ...) (mind)  9 sor     (cikkei)
3 Pictures of the Hungarian Shield and the City of Budape (mind)  17 sor     (cikkei)
4 ANNOUNCEMENT: AL-ANON & ALATEEN WWW SERVER (mind)  24 sor     (cikkei)
5 Re: Dialects of English (mind)  45 sor     (cikkei)
6 Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: AL-ANON & ALATEEN WWW SERVER (mind)  30 sor     (cikkei)
7 Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: AL-ANON & ALATEEN WWW SERVER (mind)  37 sor     (cikkei)
8 How sweet it is! (mind)  7 sor     (cikkei)
9 NY elections (mind)  3 sor     (cikkei)
10 Re: NY elections (mind)  13 sor     (cikkei)
11 Re: 4th of November (mind)  12 sor     (cikkei)
12 Re: your mail (mind)  6 sor     (cikkei)
13 Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: AL-ANON & ALATEEN WWW SERVER (mind)  10 sor     (cikkei)
14 forint to plummet? (mind)  9 sor     (cikkei)
15 The nature of English (mind)  12 sor     (cikkei)
16 Re: Germany (mind)  34 sor     (cikkei)
17 Re: Balkans (mind)  8 sor     (cikkei)
18 HIX Party at New York's Hungarian House (mind)  28 sor     (cikkei)
19 Magyarorszag legnagyobb UNIX geperol (mind)  64 sor     (cikkei)

+ - subscribe Hungary-l Stephen R. Day (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)


+ - Re: Pompousness (was: Post Anarchism ...) (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Greg writes:

> You're *supposed* to be wracking your brains for good examples of
> Rigo Utca slants.  That was a general invitation, BTW.
> --Greg

Damn it, and I was wrecking mine. Back to keeping spelling bees.

Regards,Jeliko.
+ - Pictures of the Hungarian Shield and the City of Budape (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

>From  Nov  8 15:40:17 1994
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:38:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Andras Szeitz >
X-To: Andras Szeitz >

Hi everybody!

As of Nov. 7 1994. I posted a few BMP and GIF pictures of the Hungarian
Shield and the City of Budapest on the newsgroup alt.binaries.pictures
They are all 256 colour images and one black and white. Every picture is
uuencode-ed. The GIF's are from the Hungarian home page:
http://www.fsz.bme.hu/hungary; I also got them from there. The BMP's I
scanned.

Regards,

Andras Szeitz
+ - ANNOUNCEMENT: AL-ANON & ALATEEN WWW SERVER (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

********************************************************
 **    Announcing The Al-Anon & Alateen WWW Server     **
 **    -------------------------------------------     **
 ** Has your life been affected by someone else's      **
 ** drinking?                                          **
 **                                                    **
 ** Al-Anon & Alateen (for younger members of Al-Anon) **
 ** is a worldwide program for the families and        **
 ** friends of alcoholics. If you are concerned about  **
 ** someone else's drinking, or were raised in an      **
 ** alcoholic home, Al-Anon or Alateen may be for you. **
 **                                                    **
 ** Use your URL to check out                          **
 **                                                    **
 **       http://solar.rtd.utk.edu/~al-anon/           **
 **                                                    **
 ** If you have any questions or suggestions           **
 ** concerning this server, please email               **
 **                                                    **
 **       Don R.                                       **
 ** at                               **
 ** or    solar.rtd.utk.edu                            **
 **                                                    **
 ********************************************************
+ - Re: Dialects of English (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article > ,  writes:

da>>it seems to me that the difference between american and english is
great
da>>enough to consider them as distinct but related languages, rather
than simply
da>>different dialects.

>And let's add Australian English. That must be the reason why Imre Bokor
and
>I don't understand each other: he speaks the Australian dialect and I the
>American, mixing it a little with the Canadian variety.
>
>Eva Balogh

australian english, in its syntax and semantics, is definitely a dialect
of english rather
than american. the spelling, use of prepositions, the distinction between
adverbs
and adjectives, the formulation of sentences are very distinct from that
used in
the usa. where the same word is used for different meanings in the usa
and england,
standard australian usage follows the english, not the american one.
where different
words are use to refer to the same thing, standard australian usage tends
to follow
the english one.

with the increasing americanisaton, this may no longer be true in a
generation or two.

the difference between american and englaish is rather gross. if one
reads "the guardian weekly" which has exerpts from "the guardian", "le
monde" and "the washington post",
it is easy to tell from the language by reading one or two sentences
whether the article
or review is from the american or the english.

as i said before, it seems to me that the difference is large enough to
call the two separate but related languages. that is not to say one is
superior to the other, even if
some of us prfer one and others the other.

d.a.
+ - Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: AL-ANON & ALATEEN WWW SERVER (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Don R ) wrote:
:  ********************************************************
:  **    Announcing The Al-Anon & Alateen WWW Server     **
:  **    -------------------------------------------     **
:  ** Has your life been affected by someone else's      **
:  ** drinking?                                          **
:  **                                                    **
:  ** Al-Anon & Alateen (for younger members of Al-Anon) **
:  ** is a worldwide program for the families and        **
:  ** friends of alcoholics. If you are concerned about  **
:  ** someone else's drinking, or were raised in an      **
:  ** alcoholic home, Al-Anon or Alateen may be for you. **
:  **                                                    **
:  ** Use your URL to check out                          **
:  **                                                    **
:  **       http://solar.rtd.utk.edu/~al-anon/           **
:  **                                                    **
:  ** If you have any questions or suggestions           **
:  ** concerning this server, please email               **
:  **                                                    **
:  **       Don R.                                       **
:  ** at                               **
:  ** or    solar.rtd.utk.edu                            **
:  **                                                    **
:  ********************************************************


--

Is this a hint that Hungarians are consuming too much alcohol?
+ - Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: AL-ANON & ALATEEN WWW SERVER (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Frank Sandor ) wrote:
: Don R ) wrote:
: :  ********************************************************
: :  **    Announcing The Al-Anon & Alateen WWW Server     **
: :  **    -------------------------------------------     **
: :  ** Has your life been affected by someone else's      **
: :  ** drinking?                                          **
: :  **                                                    **
: :  ** Al-Anon & Alateen (for younger members of Al-Anon) **
: :  ** is a worldwide program for the families and        **
: :  ** friends of alcoholics. If you are concerned about  **
: :  ** someone else's drinking, or were raised in an      **
: :  ** alcoholic home, Al-Anon or Alateen may be for you. **
: :  **                                                    **
: :  ** Use your URL to check out                          **
: :  **                                                    **
: :  **       http://solar.rtd.utk.edu/~al-anon/           **
: :  **                                                    **
: :  ** If you have any questions or suggestions           **
: :  ** concerning this server, please email               **
: :  **                                                    **
: :  **       Don R.                                       **
: :  ** at                               **
: :  ** or    solar.rtd.utk.edu                            **
: :  **                                                    **
: :  ********************************************************


: --

: Is this a hint that Hungarians are consuming too much alcohol?

Not at all. Simply letting folks know that the Al-Anon program is
available for those whose lives have been affected by someone else's
drinking.

Don R.
+ - How sweet it is! (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

It indeed looks like George Pataki won, Greg.
Who would have thought of such a sweeping Republican win two years ago?
It's a good feeling to know my campaign donation did not go to a loser.
Let's see if Pataki delivers on his promise to visit Hungary.

Just to rub it in,
Joe
+ - NY elections (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Final result -
Hungarian-American millionaire George Pataki (Rep) has won
against Mario Cuomo (Dem) in New York state's governor's race.
+ - Re: NY elections (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Does anyone have any information about Pataki ?  Where was he born ?
Where were his parents born ?  Any other details ?


Gotthard Saghi-Szabo ) wrote:

: Final result -
: Hungarian-American millionaire George Pataki (Rep) has won
: against Mario Cuomo (Dem) in New York state's governor's race.
--
Martin Balo

Internet: 
+ - Re: 4th of November (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Glen Camp writes:

>         I remember it well, Joe, as I was across the Danube in Burgenland
> and I particularly remember my humiliation since Ike and Dulles had prom-
> ised to "roll back the Iron Curtain" in the '52 and '56 US elections but
> when Khrushchev sent Ivan Serov and the tanks in my country did nothing
> while the freedom fighters died.  Now we're doing the same thing in
Bosnia
> --when will we ever learn?

I think we should start by improving the geography classes.
Regards,Jeliko.
+ - Re: your mail (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Perhaps you should send this kind of a message to the 

On Wed, 9 Nov 1994, Mr S R Day wrote:

> subscribe Hungary-l Stephen R. Day
>
+ - Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: AL-ANON & ALATEEN WWW SERVER (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

On Wed, 9 Nov 1994 00:47:40 GMT Frank Sandor said:
>Don R ) wrote:
>:  ********************************************************
>:  **    Announcing The Al-Anon & Alateen WWW Server     **

>Is this a hint that Hungarians are consuming too much alcohol?

--I thought that it was directed at me personally.

Charles
+ - forint to plummet? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

From The Economist, October 29th:

"Our seers expect the Hungarian forint to plummet by 13.7% from
its current rate over the next three months...thanks to an
untamed budget deficit."

This is from the magazines Emerging-Market Indicators page.

--Greg
+ - The nature of English (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Dear Steve Paredes:

I am afraid there is something wrong with your sense of humor! My irony was
certainly wasted on you. Or perhaps you have not been on the list long enough
to appreciate my lines. Imi Bokor and I don't understand each other not
because we speak different languages or highly divergent dialects of the same
language. The problem lies elsewhere.

By the way, Imi Bokor's ridiculous comment on the state of the English
language doesn't deserve serious consideration or comment.

Eva Balogh
+ - Re: Germany (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Andras Kornai > writes:

> [...]
> German interest in eastern investments. Hungary also has to compete with an
> enthusiastically pro-German Czech Republic and an investment-hungry Poland.
> [...]

Is the Czech Republic really so pro-German?

> [...]
> Further, I fail to see Germany as a guarantor of peace, any peace.  Not
> because they are evil -- they are simply more interested in the well-being
> of Pomeranian grenadiers than the well-being of children in Sarajevo.
> [...]

This is very true, I'm afraid. But to explain the lack of German engagement
only with that means to simplify things to much, I think. The post-war idea
that Germany should by no means become politically active - not to mention
military activities of any kind! - abroad again after all the terrible things
Germans have committed during the 3rd Reich is still a basic principle in
political thinking in Germany East and West. I would not dare to judge, though,
whether this in the majority of people's minds is really an honest principle
or only a 'tactical' guideline to avoid strengthening anti-German feelings
abroad.

Wolf

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+ - Re: Balkans (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Charles comments after some gin about Chamberlain.
One only sees the problem with brevity when the responses start to come in.
The reason for requoting Chamberlain was to STRESS the point that both then
and now, many of the western politicos know in fact very little about
Central Europe, not because I was worrying about the Germans again.
That part of the Chamberlain statement represented truth than and it does
now.
Regards,Jeliko.
+ - HIX Party at New York's Hungarian House (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

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