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1 Re: Bikini vagy nagyfero (mind)  18 sor     (cikkei)
2 Hungarian Folk Dance & Music on Nov. 9th, @ Ft Washingt (mind)  37 sor     (cikkei)
3 [FW]A T E N T I E U N G A R I A ! (mind)  22 sor     (cikkei)
4 Re: Valasztasok Romaniaban (mind)  10 sor     (cikkei)
5 Re: Valasztasok Romaniaban (mind)  32 sor     (cikkei)
6 Re: The Ottoman Empire and the German Reformation (mind)  87 sor     (cikkei)
7 Re: Just try this, it will work (mind)  36 sor     (cikkei)
8 Call Hungary $.54/min flat arte + true Calling Card (mind)  3 sor     (cikkei)
9 Simply incomprehensible ... NOT! (mind)  8 sor     (cikkei)
10 Re: Soros sponsoring legalization of marijuana? (mind)  22 sor     (cikkei)
11 FUTURES TRADER (mind)  4 sor     (cikkei)
12 Re: The Ottoman Empire and the German Reformation (mind)  51 sor     (cikkei)
13 Arpi tata (mind)  7 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Re: Bikini vagy nagyfero (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >,
Gyorgy Kovacs > wrote:
>T. Kocsis  > wrote:
>>"Milyen baro' karcorad van,
>>minden oraban pitty, pitty"
>Szerintem Rolls Frakcio, de nem biztos. Regen volt ...

Ha mar itt tartunk, melyik egyuttes enekelt valami olyasmit, hogy:

"En az idot nem sajnalom, csak elni szeretnek
Hagyjatok elni!"

Azt hiszem, ugyanok enekeltek a "Szerelem szabadon"-t.

Egyszeruen nem jut eszembe a neve...

+ - Hungarian Folk Dance & Music on Nov. 9th, @ Ft Washingt (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)


The John Addison Concert Hall presents the dancers of TISZA ENSEMBLE with
the musicians of TANCHAZ! in an irrepressible performance of dance, music,
and song from the traditional culture of Hungary.=20

A Tanchaz (dance party) for audience, dancers, and musicians will
immediately follow the performance.

Admission $10 general, $8 seniors/students


(Ft. Washington, MD, in Southern Prince George County across the Potomac &
southeast of Alexandria, Va.)
=09Take Exit 3A (Indian Head Hwy. South) off the Washington Beltway=20
=09Go four miles on Indian Head Hwy. =20
=09At Ft. Washington Rd., turn right.
=09Turn right again at the next street  Livingston Rd., on the left is the
=09Harmony Hall Regional Center.

Note: As you drive down Indian Head Hwy., you will see several turn-offs
for Livingston Rd.  Do Not turn into livingston Rd. until after you have
made the right onto Ft. Washington Rd.


Szilvia Bal=E1zs

-- L=E1sd Tisza Egy=FCttes web oldal=E1t - Please visit the homepage of the
   Tisza Ensemble:

WWW                : http://www.glue.umd.edu/~hungaria/Tisza
personal email     : 
+ - [FW]A T E N T I E U N G A R I A ! (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

              A T E N T I E U N G A R I A !
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intre comentariile si discutiile ROMANILOR !
Fac otrava  in tara , fac otrava si aici ,  pina la urma o sa moara

I G N O R A T I I  !

A C E L A S I.
+ - Re: Valasztasok Romaniaban (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Gotthard Saghi-Szabo  > wrote:

>minden Amerikaban tartozkodo roman allampolgar szavazhat a nagyobb varosokban 
>felallitott szavazokorzetekben.

Csak tudnam mivel erdemelt ki a Roman emigracio olyasmit, amit a magyar
nem.  Lehet, hogy ok a hazajukon kivul elve is jobban ismerik az otthoni
ugyeket mint a magyar emigransok?  Vagy fizetnek adot a Roman allamnak?

Pannon J.
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>Csak tudnam mivel erdemelt ki a Roman emigracio olyasmit, 
>amit a magyar
>nem.  Lehet, hogy ok a hazajukon kivul elve is jobban ismerik az 
>ugyeket mint a magyar emigransok?  Vagy fizetnek adot a 
>Roman allamnak?

Hat a magyar torveny nagyon kulonos ebbol a szempontbol. Majdnem mindenhol
mashol a szavazas allampolgari jog, s nem fugg a lakohelytol. Mivel
allampolgari jogrol van szo, itt nem szamit, hogy az illeto adofizeto-e vagy
sem. Hiszen ez tulajdonkeppen a magyar torveny szerint sem szamit, hiszen ha
egy kulfoldon elo, magyar allamnak adot nem fizeto magyar allampolgar
Magyarorszagra utazik a magyar valasztasok idejere, akkor o is szavazhat.
Szoval szerintem a magyar torveny erosen diszkrimanitiv es igazsagtalan.

Ivan Marinov - Maximilian Valenski
"The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath" (Mark 2:27)
"The Western world has lost its civil courage, both as a whole,
and separately, in each country, each government, each
political party, and of course in the UN. I have spent all my
life under a Communist regime, and I will tell you that a society
without any objective scale is a terrible one indeed. But a
society with no other scale but the legal one is not quite worthy
of man either." (A. I. Solzhenitsyn)

+ - Re: The Ottoman Empire and the German Reformation (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

-Surensoy,E. wrote:
> In article ),  ) wrote:
> )-Surensoy,E. wrote:
> ))
> ))         No Turk was ever given any privilge or oportunity by Ottoman as
> ))         "timar" or any position in Ottoman power hierarchi; on the contrar
> ))         all Turks were deliberately kept by the Ottoman sytsem of oppressi
> ))         which was composed of all devshirmes who were former Christian con
> ))         of Greek, Armenian, and other Eastern European origins, as the mos
> ))         ignorant and powerless socially, economically and every other way.
> ))
> ))         On the other hand Barbarossa's father was a very successfull Janis
> ))         that's why he was given a good timar; according to the Ottoman
> ))         devshirme procedures, he was taken from his Greek Ortadox family
> ))         when he was 8-9 years old as a tax and trained at an Ottoman milit
> ))         school as a janissary in which he excelled so well that he was
> ))         promoted to higher ranks ("timarli sipahi" a cavalry soldier) and
> ))         given a timar as his retirement pension by his Ottoman masters who
> ))         were devshirmes, including Suleyman, like himself was one.
> ))
> ))         Nevetheless, Barbarossa was a corsair for almost all his life; and
> ))         shows how unethical the Ottoman system of oppression was in choosi
> ))         its people.
> ))
> ))                                 ../..
> ))
> ))
> )
> )Dear Enis,
> )
> )You are incorrect in saying that no Christian could be given the timarlik
> )income.  A relevant early example is that Mehmed II , the Conqueror gave
> )huge holding in Macedonia to both Mara Brankovic, his stepmother, and her
> )father, George Brankovic, the Serbian successor state prince who later
> )moved out of Osmanli control.  So you see, this was common in the 14th
> )century.  It should also be note that this basiclaly relicated the
> )Byzantine tax collection system in principle with the addition of the
> )head tax added to it.
> )
> )
> )Galina Schneider
> )
>         I did not say "no Christian could be given the timarlik income"; I
>         actuall said that No Turk was ever given any privilge or oportunity
>         by Ottoman as "timar" or any position in Ottoman power hierarchi; on
>         the contrary, all Turks were deliberately kept by the Ottoman sytsem
>         of oppression, which was composed of all devshirmes who were former
>         Christian converts.
>         Yes, Ottoman gave all kinds of concessions and privilidges to
>         Christians under their rule for political and other benefits in
>         return from them.Here is on Barbarossa:

ref.:  Pitcher, Donald Edgar, An Historical Geography of the Ottoman 
Empire, Cox and Wyman, London, 1968, pp.118-119, section called "The 

actual name:  "Barbaros" Hayrudden hizir Pasa, known as Khayr al-Din, or 
Khaireddin, or Barbarossa.

former job:  Beylerbeyhi of Cezayir, appointed by SUleiman in 1519.

called by Suleiman to reconstruct the imperial fleet:  1934, and he was 
titled by Suleiman Kaptan- [Kapudan] -Pasa.

died:  1546.

It should be noted that Barbaros was not the only person in the position 
he was given by Suleiman.  The position was established during Mehmed II 
and was held by numerous individuals.  During Suleiman, the captainships, 
if you would call them that, were split into three, corresponding to the 
three sea campaigns initiated by Suleiman.

Galina Schneider.

Of course, this has nothing to do with the German Reformation
+ - Re: Just try this, it will work (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

zygote wrote:
> Stephen,
> I cannot wait to send you my $1,000, but I cannot read yr message. It
> is too long. How do i do this. I want to be rich too, pls help... and
> send me a short instruction where to send the money..

 Why don't you try to send email at 

>  (Stephen Boltinghouse) wrote:
> >
> >Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life.
> >
> > The Internet has grown tremendously. It doubles in size every 4 months.
> > think about it. You see those 'Make.Money.Fast' posts more and more.
> > That's ... because it WORKS !  So I thought, all those new users might
> > make it work. And I decided to try it out, a few months ago.  Besides,
> > whats $5.00, I spend more than that in the morning on my way to work on
> > coffee and cigs for the day. So I sent in my money and posted.
> > Everyone was calling it a scam, but there are SO many new users from

Go to the sites that reveal the Turkish Barbaric Crimes

+ - Call Hungary $.54/min flat arte + true Calling Card (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

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+ - Simply incomprehensible ... NOT! (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Wally Keeler > wrote:
>SENTENCE 2: "We learned about age that in history class!"
>            Simply incomprehensible!

Well if you hadn't skipped your English 101 classes, you would have been
able to unjumble the puzzle, by just reversing the order of the 4th and 5th
words. Can you see how easy it is, if you think?
+ - Re: Soros sponsoring legalization of marijuana? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

You are irrelevent -- PLUNK!

Gabor Barsai ) writes:
> In article >,
> willy, the canadian pseudo poet and artificial artist wrote:
>>            toke and post at the same time or else he is
> Oh, willy. Like you never made a mistake in your life! (You did, you were bor
> your first and biggest mistake.) Unlike you, I admit my mistakes. That's the 
> difference betwixt us: je suis human, while in contrast, vous are a pod.
> Yes, I made a mistake. You also make mistakes and tell lies: incorrectly 
> spelling words and calling it creative wordplay, or calling yourself a poet.
> You are not a poet, willy. And rightly so. Get used to it. Accept it. Live it
> Love it.
> Did you look up tintinnabulation, willy? A real word created by a real poet.
> Too bad you're too stupid to come up with real words.
> Gabor
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+ - Re: The Ottoman Empire and the German Reformation (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >,  > wrote:
>My friend George is right that it is wrong to characterize the Ottoman 
>Empire in such a facile manner. George Soumakis wrote:
>But some of the other assertions made by people other that George such 
>that the Osmanlis were not partly Turkic, or that they were mostly Greek 
>and SLavic is ludicrous.  THe Ottoman Empire considered itself to be a 
>successsor to the Byzantine Empire, as did the Selcuks before (Rum).  It 
>was considered as such, by the way, by the Slavic and Greek successor 
>states with which it had diplomatic relations.  Of course, the manner of 
>ceremonial rule was coopted from the Byzantines but a large part of the 
>administrative strucutre was more related to various of the beyliks 
>predecessosr administrations.
>The author of the insert article is partly correct in speaking about the 
>different flavor of Islam in Turkey and in the Balkans.  Certainly the 
>Bektashi and Mevlevi, Naqshibani (spelling?) and other orders were 
>somewhat different, but I would think very rich traditions exploring a 
>fuller potential of personal inquiry within the framework of Sunni faith. 
> I think that there is great reason to treasure these traditions.  The 
>concept of "slave" in Ottoman parance I will not touch.  I suggest a 
>consultation with Mr. Chukurov on that concept as he has more experience 
>than I. ;)
>Galina Schneider

	Not a single Ottoman sultan was a child of a Turkish woman, not
	a sigle Ottoman post of high or low level was occupied by a Turk.
	Turks were deliberately kept as the most ignorant and powerless 
	(socially, economically, politically and every which way) ethnic 
	group under their rule. Being a Turk was a least desireable thing
	to be for an Ottoman subject. Pursuing Turkish nationalism, welfare
	or cultural aspirations was always a crime punished by death; many
	innocent Turks were put to death or let to rot in Ottoman dungeons
	for that; the most famous one of them was Mustafa Kemal Ataturk who 
	was the founder of today's Turkish Republic and sentenced to death 
	by the last Ottoman ruller a few years before he ran away onboard  
	a British war ship.

	Ottoman never declared or calim itself as a Turkish state or any
	other political entity; its official language in foreign relations
	was Armenian language. Its internal official language was mainly
	a mixture of Arabic and Persian sprinkled with a few Turkish words
	for which probobly they could not find any Arabic or Persian  

	These were not mere coincidences; Ottoman destroyed many Turkish 
	states and principalities of Anatolia in most brutal manners in 
	order to establish its system of oppression; that's why Ottoman was
	very paranoid about Turkish Nationalism and Turks.
+ - Arpi tata (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Kedves Paanon J.!

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