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1 Re: Antw: Navo is a political dwarf (was Re: Thanks Hu (mind)  6 sor     (cikkei)
2 Re: Antw: Navo is a political dwarf (was Re: Thanks Hu (mind)  38 sor     (cikkei)
3 I want to learn Hungarian...how and where? (mind)  11 sor     (cikkei)
4 Re: Antw: Navo is a political dwarf (was Re: Thanks Hu (mind)  16 sor     (cikkei)
5 Re: Antw: Navo is a political dwarf (was Re: Thanks Hu (mind)  14 sor     (cikkei)
6 Re: Antw: Navo is a political dwarf (was Re: Thanks Hu (mind)  16 sor     (cikkei)
7 Re: Inquiry on MALEV (mind)  14 sor     (cikkei)
8 Re: Genealogy help please (mind)  8 sor     (cikkei)
9 Re: card game (mind)  16 sor     (cikkei)
10 Re: Arms to Croatia. Right-on, Joe!/ANYONE WITH MORE I (mind)  14 sor     (cikkei)
11 Re: SCM: The new SecState and Central Europe (mind)  12 sor     (cikkei)
12 Where s ASCII-licker Tudor Dimwit? (mind)  6 sor     (cikkei)
13 Re: Arms to Croatia (mind)  29 sor     (cikkei)
14 Re: Arms to Croatia (mind)  27 sor     (cikkei)
15 Re: The new SecState and Central Europe (mind)  12 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Re: Antw: Navo is a political dwarf (was Re: Thanks Hu (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)


I will reply to your post one of these days. I totally missed it, and just
today I read it.

+ - Re: Antw: Navo is a political dwarf (was Re: Thanks Hu (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

On 10 Dec 1996, Michel Couzijn wrote:

> Adriana C. Bruggeman > wrote in article
> >...
> > In article >,
> > BeeJay  > wrote:
> > 
> > >Now I do have a question, off topic really (has nothing to do with NATO
> > >Dwarfism) but is it me or is is it just a habit of the Dutch? I mean, a
> > >week ago or so somebody felt compelled to publish his grades in
> > >soc.culture.netherlands, apparently to support his case, and now another
> > >one is asking me to make public my degree, as if that would change
> > >anything about the validity of my point? Degrees don't matter in any
> > >discussion, just opinions.
> > 
> > Get that, Ania? 
> No, Ania did not get that, since she does not take part in this discussion.
> It is
> me who wites the contributions. I sign them with my own name. I am in fact
> a secret agent from the U.S., the Polish name Ania Oleksik is my cover, and
> I
> pretend to be critical of the U.S. Up until now, no one noticed. You are
> the first
> to break my cover. Such a shame!
> > >                           Or are you also infected with that typical
> > >calvinistic "holier-than-thou-attitude", that moral superiority that
> > >almost everybody seems to embrace in Holland? 
> > 
> > I feel that this is insulting towards Dutch people...
> I can stand these insults only because I know who wrote them.
> Specially since Bee admitted that he has never been here in The
> Netherlands. Or at
> least not for a long, long time.

And BeeJay smiles (;-))))))))))))).
+ - I want to learn Hungarian...how and where? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

I'm first born and my father was a Hungarian Freedom Fighter during the
1956 Uprising. My mother also escaped during this time and met my father
at Camp Kilmer New Jersey where some of the refugees where kept. Almost
95% of my family is still there.  More than ever now I would like to
learn my native language.  Is there a way to do this by way of mail
order cassettes, schools, etc.?  Please let me know.

John Laszlo Berenyi Jr. 

Dalls, Texas, USA
+ - Re: Antw: Navo is a political dwarf (was Re: Thanks Hu (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >,
Ania Oleksik > wrote:
(Michel Couzijn wrote:)
>>In other words, when it comes to security, there's not much else to look for
>>besides the US. Do you know any better alternative?
>Yes, call me naive, but I still believe in the possibility of a UN
>super police force. The U.S. can participate, of course, I would love
>them to, but they really should pay their contribution in time.
>Michel Couzijn
>Amsterdam, The Netherlands

No, we can call you "stupid" or "unrealistic"; but naive, nah.

+ - Re: Antw: Navo is a political dwarf (was Re: Thanks Hu (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >,
Didier Moens > wrote:

>"Life in Canada is wonderful - that is, if you happen to be a
>pineapple".  :)

Nonesense, Moens creature; life as a Kees  in Canada is Prima Pico Bello

Btw, you forgot to crotspam to nl.eeuwig.sepetember;  I added the header
for you ain't I sweet?

+ - Re: Antw: Navo is a political dwarf (was Re: Thanks Hu (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Ania Oleksik wrote:
Jeroen M.W. van Dijk wrote:

> >USA is backrupt [and does not] pay its contributions to the international or

Here is an example -- he doesn't understand what the word "bunkrupt"
I've explained this to him.

+ - Re: Inquiry on MALEV (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

I have to agree
>with previous postings regarding the food.  It is always the same
>unimaginative mixture of slices of salami, hard bread rolls, strange
>salad and quails eggs or slices of chicken eggs


I agree about the space being too small, I prefer the 737s, but what
else would you want to eat on a 2 hrs flight. < Besides I find the 
stewardesses much more pleasent, than any other Airlines.>

Laszlo Balogh

+ - Re: Genealogy help please (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

You can start much research here in US.  Since you have no birth family
information to draw upon, I recommend that you visit The Church of Jesus
Christ of the Latter Day Saints, yes, the Mormans.  They have
computerized, micrfilmed, and catalogued much information from around the
world.  They sould be able to get you started on some information.  I also
recommend that you visit the WorldGen Hungary web page.  There's not much
on it at this time, but you could post the surname you're researching and
see what kind of response you get.
+ - Re: card game (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

 (Andrew Tarjanyi) wrote:

>No. I think the other game called 'zsir'. I can't recall all the rules at 
>the moment, but this must be it. Just try to translate 'lard' for a 

Thanks, Andrew. It is indeed Zsirozas, and the rules are at:


The word translates to mean "grease" (which is close to "lard")

Where do I want to go today? Someplace where there are no computers.

                              - jqt -
+ - Re: Arms to Croatia. Right-on, Joe!/ANYONE WITH MORE I (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

>That's right-on Joe!  

Well, am I forgiven now? ;-)

>Do you or anyone else know where I could get my
>hands on information regarding this issue?  I would like to write a

I would dig into the contemporary HIX or HIRMONDO archives to start

+ - Re: SCM: The new SecState and Central Europe (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Peter Kovalszki  > wrote:
>Very cautious optimism is in order, at the best; nonetheless I prefer
>her any time,compared to the gutless, witless Christopher.At least can
>stand up to the Russians too, and has a better understanding of the
>region.Even that is something.

Sure.  Something like when Zbigniew Brzezynski held that post, though I
didn't care for his close association with Kissinger & Co.  I wonder if
Albright comes from the same crowd.

+ - Where s ASCII-licker Tudor Dimwit? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Where is that incompoetent Two-door Lada Dima?
He's a jalopy on the infobahn.
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+ - Re: Arms to Croatia (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Gyorgy Kovacs wrote:
> HipCat  > wrote:
> >.......................  Remember a few years ago when Hungary shipped
> >arms to aid Croatia.  Hungarians in Hungary called this a "botrany" a
> >scandal!  "We have no right nor business in sending arms to other
> >countries" was the comment I heard most.
> It was noble, yet unwise. The Hungarian Army (Honvedseg) is the smallest and
> weakest in the neighborhood. The condition of weapons is pathetic. The arms o
> the Munkasorseg which ended up in Croatia were in mint condition. With that
> noble move we weakened ourselves further. From this point of view it was
> 'botrany'. On the other hand at that moment Croats really needed those AMD-65
> supplies more than we did. Difficult issue, huh?
> GK

Actually, I believe a wise move.  Whether those arms were better than
the ones in the standard arsenal, it was in our national interest to aid
an old associate, Croatia.  If we weren't going to fight the Serbs to
protect the Hungarians in Croatia and Vajdaság, the least we could was
to help prevent complete Serbian hegemony in the region.  This was such
a basic concept, I was dumfounded to hear opposition to the move while I
was in Hungary.

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+ - Re: Arms to Croatia (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Istvan Szucs wrote:
> In article >,  > wrote
> |
> | I never heard about the condition on those weapons sold vis a vis the
> | ones that remained, but overall I thought it was a good move by
> | Jeszenszky and it served national interest.  What I consider wrong is
> | that the SZDSZ used that national security issue for its own narrow
> | political interest to embarrass the Antall government.  Very close to
> | treason in my book.
> Ya... like it doesn't happen everywhere everytime.
> Treason? Gimme a break.. I guess it would fit how the
> communists defined treason, but  I didn't think your
> definitions followed theirs.
> Istvan

To betray one's nation and national security for lowly and narrow
political interests IS close to treason. Isn't treason betrayal of a

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+ - Re: The new SecState and Central Europe (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

> wrote:
>I think you are right! I am all for it, but worried about her, she will
>have a very
>hard time with all these men, particularly the ones in the middle east.
>Off course I know she can handle them all, "kicsi a bors de eros...".
>It will be interesting to watch how it is going to work out!

Well, not just the Middle East, but think of the Japanese, for instance.
But if she has the nerves of Thatcher or Golda Meyr, she can handle it.