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HIX HUNGARY 292
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1995-04-26
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Megrendelés Lemondás
1 Re: INNOVATION IN DANGER (mind)  36 sor     (cikkei)
2 The FM in DC (mind)  40 sor     (cikkei)
3 Genealogy Queries (mind)  23 sor     (cikkei)
4 Library of Congress (mind)  14 sor     (cikkei)
5 Viharfelhok (mind)  127 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Re: INNOVATION IN DANGER (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Dear Tamas,

Maybe you need to pick up some skills on how to pursuade companies to
sponsor you.  Sounds like a very interesting project, and I am absolutely
positive that many companies could use your expertise.

Letters like this, however, will not get you very far in pursuading
sponsors.  Maybe you want to find a reason why companies or individuals
should sponsor you and concentrate on what the sponsor would get out of
this relationship.  Talk to some profitable Hungarian and foreign firms
and you will succeed.

Zoli

On Mon, 24 Apr 1995, NAGY TAMAS wrote:

> URGENT LETTER TO EVERY INTELLIGENT MAN AND WOMAN!
> @@@@%%%%%&&&&&
>
> We are the Digital Dream Hungary Group!
> In last year we WON THE INNOVATION CHAMPIONSHIP in Hungary with
> our project ( BRAILLE PRINTER FOR THE BLIND ). We took part in the
> EUROPEAN FINAL in oct. of 1995 in Luxembourg.
> We have been invited to TORONTO in MAY 7-13 1995. (INTERNATIONAL
> SCIENCE and ENGINEERING FAIR).
>
> So, what is OUR PROBLEM?
> We haven't got ENOUGH MONEY TO TRAVEL there, because IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
> IN HUNGARY TO FIND A SPONSOR!
> If you are able to FIND a SPONSOR or you can HELP US please write.
>
> The time is nearly out.
> THANK YOU FOR HELPING                DIGITAL DREAM
>
> OUR ADDRESS IS :  
>
+ - The FM in DC (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Subject: Visit of the Foreign Minister of Hungary to Washington

The foreign minister of Hungary, Mr. Laszlo Kovacs, paid an official
visit to Washington which afforded an opportunity to gauge the man and
the policies that he represents.

His presentations as well as his responses to questions showed that he
was well briefed for the visit. The non-confrontational style adopted
should go a long way toward disarming some of his critics and showed
that the art of diplomacy is in ascendancy in Central Europe.

The just concluded agreement with the Slovak Republic figured
prominently in the visit. The foreign minister, however, skirted the
issue of the response of his government to human rights violations,
overt and covert, in Slovakia. These include the unresolved issues
surrounding the Benes Decrees and the compensation of the victims of the
"collective guilt" theory. Another is the on-going campaign to put
the Hungarian language newspaper Uj Szo out of business by the proposed
ten (10) times increase of taxes on the paper. The legislation would put
such a penalty tax on any paper which has a foreign investor with an
interest of more than 50%. This effectively would make the paper
economically unviable. Apparently the Hungarian government is not
perturbed by the prospect of the shutting down of the only Hungarian
newspaper of any note in Slovakia.

The visit would have been an excellent opportunity to raise the issue of
compensation of the victims of the deportations following the Kosice
program. More so, since the visit coincided with the publicity given to
the warning from several prominent US Congressmen at the behest of the
WJC regarding the compensation of Jewish victims in all the former iron
curtain countries. If restitution to one group is logical and just, as
this writer believes it to be the case, then restitution to another ethnic
group is just as warranted.

Thus another opportunity was missed. The impression is inescapable that
the Hungarian government's policy in effect is to turn its back on the
pressing needs and just grievances of the large Hungarian minorities
living in the adjoining territories.

C.K. ZOLTANI
+ - Genealogy Queries (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Hi Friends:

I apologize for reposting this to the list; however, I am unable to locate a
valid address for the list owner and received no response to my last posting.
Chris Gaunt (CIS) and I maintain an extensive file of genealogy-related
resources on the Internet and are interested in including HUNGARY if
genealogical queries are an acceptable subject. I would therefore appreciate
hearing from the list owner and, hopefully, receiving permission to include
your list in our file. If permission is granted, I would propose the
following entry (corrections would be appreciated):

HUNGARY.  Discussion of Hungarian issues. The list is open to scholars and
students from all disciplines.  Although the working language of the group is
English, contributions in other languages will be accepted and posted;
however, they may not be understood by a significant proportion of the
membership. Mailing list for postings is . To subscribe,
send the following to : SUBSCRIBE HUNGARY firstname
lastname

Thank you in advance for your consideration of this request.

John Fuller

+ - Library of Congress (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

If I recall correctly, there used to be a regular contributor to this
list who worked for the Library of Congress.  His name may have been
Nyiradi.  Could either he, or anybody familiar with the process,
describe just how those "country studies" are made for the Federal
Government?  How serious a research goes into that?  My hunch is that
those making such studies review books published on the subject and give
a synopsys of what they found.  This also means that a study about
Hungary would probably be mostly of a rehash of Hungarian authors, about
Romania from Romanian authors, because they are the most likely ones
having published on the subject.  So how objective such country studies
could be?

Thanks,
Joe Pannon
+ - Viharfelhok (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

I am not having much luck posting directly to HIX with
this *** NETCOM garbage. So maybe this will work.

Egy e'rdekes leve'l egy magyarorsza'gi ismero"sto"l.
Csak gyu"lnek a viharfello"k e's kamatozik a baj.

Kedves Bara'taim, Bajta'rsaim!       1995. ma'rcius 20.

Az elm#lt ho'nap bo"velkedett olyan fontos e's ve'leme'nyem
szerint a ko"zeljo"vo"t meghata'rozo' esemenyekben, aminek
felsorola'sa'hoz e's e'rte'kelese'hez keve's egy leve'l.
Azonban #gy gondolom, egy ro"vid o"sszefoglalo' e's
emle'kezteto" mindenke'ppen szu"kse'ges, hogy a
figyelmeteket - az itthoni viszonyokat ismerve - a
lege'geto"bb ke'rde'sekre ira'nyitsam. Elo"szo"r a
belpolitika'ro'l: Mindenkit megdo"bbentett az a va'ratlan
e's nagyara'ny# forintlee'rte'kele's e's nagyara'ny# gazdasa'gi
megszorito' inte'zkede'ssor, ami alapjaiban ra'zta meg a
va'laszto'k korma'nyba vetett bizalma't, e's az inte'zkede'sek
hata'sa egyenlo"re kisza'mithatatlan. A Ft. 9 %-os
lee'rte'kele'se, egycsapa'sra szinte a nulla'val tette
egyenlo"ve' a nyugdijak 11 %-os emele'se't. / ezt aze'rt
emlitem, mert lassan a ha'romillio' fele' ko"zeledik a
nyugdijasok sza'ma/. Azonban a 9 %-os lee'rte'kele's csak
az elso" le'pe's. Bejelentette'k, hogy ezent#l havonta
rendszeresen 1,9 %-al e'rte'kelik le a forintot, ami az
e'vve'ge'ig 27 %-os lee'rte'kele'shez vezet. Ez a
ko"zgazda'szoknak biztosan mondd valamit e's tala'n
elo"segiti a ku"lfo"ldi to"ke bejo"vetele't, ami az elm#lt
e'vekben fokozatosan visszaesett. Mig 1990-ben a
Nyugatiak megite'le'se szerint ke'tse'gtelenu"l az elso"
helyen voltunk, e's Magyarorsza'gra annyi nyugati to"ke
a'ramlott be, mint a to"bbi volt keleti to"mb orsza'gaiba
egyu"ttve've, addig napjainkra a harmadik helyre estu"nk
vissza Csehorsza'g es Lengyelorsza'g mo"ge'.
Az egyszeru" embereket azonban keve'sbe' e'rdekli a
ko"zgazdasa'g, elso"sorban azokkal a ke'rde'sekkel
foglalkoznak, melyek ko"zvetlenu"l e'rintik o"ket,
csala'djukat teha't az e'letszinvonalukat. Ezen a te'ren
nagyon sokkat jelentett ma'r a janua'ri villany- ga'z-
energia or 50-80 %-os emele'se is. Most ehhez jo"n az
#jabb sponta'n a'ramemelkede's, ami a 9 %-os
lee'rte'kele'sbo"l e's az import va'mok 8 %-os emele'se'bo"l
ado'dik. De enne'l sokkal drasztikusabb inte'zkede's a
csaia'di po'tle'k, a GYES, GYED, megszu"ntete'se ill.
alapveto" mo'dosita'sa, ami le'nyege'ben a legszege'nyebb
re'tegek megala'zo' alamizsna'ja'va' zsugorodik a be'rbo"l e's
fizete'sbo"l e'lo"k a ko"ze'pre'tegek fokozatos, egyre
gyorsulo' elszege'nyede'se'hez vezet. Igy a szocia'lis
feszu"ltse'gek egyre fokozo'dnak, aminek ko"vetkezme'nyei
kisza'mithatatlanok.
A fenti proble'ma'k alapveto" oka az, hogy a korma'ny
ke'ptelen - ha egya'ltala'n akar - ga'tatvetni a "fekete
gazdasa'g" mu"ko"de'se'nek. Hozza'e'rto"k egyo"ntetu" ve'leme'nye
szerint, a nemzeti jo"vedelem ko"zel egyharmada a fekete
gazdasa'gban keletkezik, amelyik nem ado'zik e's egyesek
hihetetlen me'retu" meggazdagoda'sa'hoz vezet. Jellemzo",
hogy a korma'ny a szege'nyse'gi ku"szo"bo"t havi
15.ooo.-Ft-na'l vonta meg, de a nyugdijasok do"nto"
to"bbse'ge enne'l kevesebbet kap, a munkane'lku"liek pedig
legto"bben me'g enne'l is kevesebbet. Ugyanakkor az
elvta'rsakbo'l urakka' lett #jgazdagok e's a vezeto"
nomenklatura /bankok - TV - Ra'dio' vezeto"i stb./ ko"zo"tt
a to"bbsza'zezer forintos havi jo"vedelem a jellemzo", de
vannak millio's havi jo"vedelmek is. Ilyen ta'rsadalmi
feszu"ltse'get csak terrorral lehet fenntartani. A
terrorr nem szu"kse'gszeru"en fegyveres elnyoma'st jelent,
hanem gazdasa'gi, egzisztencia'lis kiszolga'ltatottsa'got,
e's ezzel egyu"ttja'ro' fe'lelmet megala'ztata'st,
g#zsbako"test. Jellemzo", hogy a fenti inte'zkede'sek
hata'sa'ra Kova'cs Pa'l ne'pjo'le'ti e's Katona Be'la
titkosszolga'lati miniszterek lemondtak, Nagy Sa'ndor az
MSZOSZ elno"ke pedig kile'pett az MSZ frakcio'bo'l. Teha't a
vezeto" korma'nypa'rt soraiban is nagy a zavarodottsa'g.
Ezzel szemben az SZDSZ me'ly haligata'sba burkolo'dzik
mint ha o"ru"lne a koalicio's partner zavara'nak. -
Gondolataim itt kisse' elszabadulnak mert #gy la'tom,
hogy itt ma'r nem az orsza'g gazdasa'gi helyzete, a napi
politika a me'rvado', hanem e'vsza'zados ideolo'giai,
hatalmi ke'rde'sek huzo'dnak meg a ha'tte'rben, amelyek egg
nemzetidegen kisebbse'g te'rho'dita'sa't ke'szitik elo".--
A ma'sik ke'rde's amivel foglalkozom, az "Alapszerzo"de'sek"
ke'rde'se. Ez elso"sorban ku"lpolitikai proble'ma, de
kihata'sa a belpolitika'ban is meghata'rozo' e'rezteti a
korma'ny e's a lakossa'g do"nto" to"bbse'ge'nek szemben-
a'lla'sa't. Ez legjobban a ma'rcius 15.-i u"nnepse'g sorozat
alkalma'vai mutatkozott meg.

Ma'rcius l4-e'n este a Kisgazdapa'rt tartott u"nnepi
megemle'keze'st a Peto"fi szoborna'l. A hideg, eso"s ido"
ellene're, mintegy 15-18 ezer ember gyu"lt o"ssze, hogy
meghallgassa Torgya'n Jo'zsef besze'de't. A besze'd alatt az
"Alapszerzo"de'sek" emlite'sekor to"bbszo"r kito"rt a
to"megben e's hosszan skanda'lta'k, bogy "vesszen Horn" e's
"mondjon is le!". Az u"nnepi besze'd uta'n a re'sztvevo"k
la'tva'nyos fa'klya'smenettel a La'nchidon a't a Va'rba
vonultak, ahol o"konomikus istentiszteleten vetted
re'szt. Ilyen impoza'ns gyu"le's e's felvonula's 1989-9o o'ta
nem volt Budapesten.
Ma'snap 15.-e'n de'luta'n a MIe'P tartott gyu"le'st, ahol
Csurka volt a fo"szo'nok. Itt is legala'bb annyian voltak,
mint elo"zo" nap a Peto"fi szoborna'l. Ezzel szemben a
korma'ny a'ltal rendezett hivatalos u"nnepse'geken, ne'ha'ny
sza'z, legfeljebb ne'ha'ny ezer re'sztvevo" volt jelen.
Teha't a politika ira'nt e'rdeklo"do" emberek, valo'sa'ggal
bojkotta'lta'k a korma'ny rendezve'nyeit, /a Nemzeti Muzeum
elo"tt mig igy is majd nem kifo"tyu"lte'k Go"ncz A'rpa'dot/,
mig legnagyobb sza'mban a ke't sze'lso"se'gesnek kikia'ltott
pa'rt gyu"le'sen vettek re'szt. - Ez elgondolkoztato'!-.
18-a'n a Bazilika elo"tt az MDF, FIDESZ, e's KDNP
szimpatiza'nsai gyu"ltek o"ssze, mintegy 5-6 ezren, e's az
Alapszerzo"de's ala'ira'sa elen tu"ntettek. Az Euro'pai
Ko"zo"sse'g korma'nyaihoz ill. a ko"vetse'geknek e's a
sajto'nak adta'k a't azt a peticio't, melyben tudatja'k,
hogy Horn Gyula csak a maga neve'ben irja Pa'rizsban ala'
az Alapszerzo"de'st, mert ehhez sem a Parlamentto"l, sem a
magyar ne'pto"l nem kapott felhatalmaza'st. A roma'nokkal
ko"tendo" szerzo"de's ala'ira'sa eltolo'dott, mert a roma'nok
me'g annyi jogot sem sza'nde'koznak biztositani a
ke'tmillio's erde'lyi magyarsa'gnak mint amennyit a
szlova'kok papiron elo"legeznek. Az ellenze'ki pa'rtok
mellett egyre to"bb ta'rsadalmi szervezet e's
szakszervezeti szo"vetse'g le'p fel a korma'ny
inte'zkede'seinek bira'lata'val. To"bben a polga'ri
engedetlense'g, a sztra'jk szu"kse'gesse'ge't hangoztatja'k.
Teha't itthon felgyorsultak a politikai eseme'nyek melyek
tala'n ma'jus-junius ho'napban fognak teto"zni.

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