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HIX HUNGARY 34
Copyright (C) HIX
1994-08-03
Új cikk beküldése (a cikk tartalma az író felelőssége)
Megrendelés Lemondás
1 Re: Police in Hungary and the USA (mind)  9 sor     (cikkei)
2 Re: Horn and the Traffic Police !!! (mind)  23 sor     (cikkei)
3 Media affairs (mind)  31 sor     (cikkei)
4 Re: Media affairs (mind)  14 sor     (cikkei)
5 Democracy on Slovak-L (mind)  5 sor     (cikkei)
6 A visit to the library (mind)  9 sor     (cikkei)
7 Hungarian Language TV in N.America (mind)  29 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Re: Police in Hungary and the USA (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

>
 They
seem to hang out at airports on their way home on leave, and here and there
>you can see National Guard units driving a whole slew of trucks along the
>highway on their way to their silly weekend exercises.

--Please forgive me, but I must protest this remark.  If you were a flood
or tornado victim, you would see the value of these "silly weekend
exercises" and be very glad to see the National Guard.
+ - Re: Horn and the Traffic Police !!! (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

On Sun, 31 Jul 1994, Gabor Ellmann wrote:

> Dear Eva Durant (and Attila too!),

> It is surely interesting how the police behaves in the USA and innocent
 drivers
> are welcome to contribute with stories.  I myself, too, have a few.
>
> But this has little to do with democracy and absolute NOTHING to do with Horn
!
>
> Continuous indication of the original subject is misleading at the least.  If
> you keep te subject for ease the search in the archive, then attaching huge
> sections (often the entire posing) of the previous material is quite
> superfluous.  Otherwise, you should just select a suitable few words for the
> subjects of your otherwise excellent postings.

Of course Gabor, if you go back to those archives you would realize that
my remark was only a correction of somebody else's statement. And it was
not Eva's.


                                                        Attila
+ - Media affairs (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

A couple of days ago I quoted a short passage from an article on Keleti, the
new minister of defense. The piece was written by Laszlo Juszt. In the same
article I found something which may interest the readers of the list.

The immediate background is as follows. Lajos Fu2r, the former government's
minister of defense, was in deep depression over his party's defeat at the
elections and the loss of his own position. He was especially upset over the
fact that his successor is none other than his former employee, the spokesman
for his ministry between 1990 and 1992, Gyorgy Keleti. He was reluctant to
meet with his successor. The question was how to entice the reluctant Fu2r,
to meet with Keleti and discuss the matter of the change-over. Keleti and
someone called Jo1zsef Fehe1r, who is Keleti's pick for one of the
undersecretaries, visited Gyula Horn to explain to him the problem of not
being able to arrange a meeting with Fu2r. A discussion followed. "At the
end, the decision was made that they should try to change his [Fu2r's] mind
with the help of a couple of newspaper articles. So, it came handy that at
9:30 the *Esti Hirlap* appeared on the scene."

Of course, we all know that politicians try to manipulate the media to their
advantage and some of them are real pros in this business. I think of
President Reagan and his administration: those guys were real geniuses at it.
But they normally try to do it rather subtly. But more important, the
representatives of the media hate being used this way and they are, on the
whole, very careful not to serve the interests of certain politicians or
political parties. Here, on the other hand, we find a member of the media
writing about this affair so matter of factly that it doesn't seem to occur
to him that he and his colleagues are being used and they are in fact serving
the cause of a political party. He certainly doesn't think that he should not
discuss this matter openly, in black and white, in front of the whole world.
Ergo, I think that he doesn't think that there is anything wrong with this.
Eva Balogh, the watchdog of the media
+ - Re: Media affairs (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Eva--

Keep up the good work.  As one who is studying the development of media in the
countries of Central and Eastern Europe since the fall of the Berlin Wall, I
truly appreciate these messages on the media.  As I mentioned in a previous
e-mail, it appears that the best hope for the future of the media in these
countries lies with the students who will be the future of journalism.  It
appears more and more like the current group of journalists choose only to
patiently pay attention in workshops and conferences, then go about their
business without any consideration of what they may have heard.  That sort of
short-sightedness is counterproductive.

Frank A. Aycock, Ph.D.
Appalachian State University
+ - Democracy on Slovak-L (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Sorry if this sounds like advertizing - there is an interesting
discussion that concerns some aspects of democracy, on Slovak-L
list. Subscribe, enjoy.

Roman Kanala
+ - A visit to the library (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

is highly recommended for those who want to read a well-informed,
balanced essay about the current situation in Hungary by a real historian.
(Deak Istvan. 'Post-Post-Communist Hungary' _The New York Review of Books_
Aug 11, 1994, p. 33-38.)

The rest of you can continue with your biased, semi-informed Horn and media
bashing.

Istvan Kertesz
+ - Hungarian Language TV in N.America (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Hello Hungary Net followers:

A student assistant in our library is trying to set up his own TV
satellite dish, and by the way, looked up for me the availability
of Hungarian Language TV broadcasts in North America. He
forwarded the information he received from the rec.video.satellite
newsgroup.  This is all I know, and since I am not a dish antenna user
I cannot answer questions on this topic.

Victor

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:  (John C. Schmuhl)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Hungarian channels?
Followup-To: rec.video.satellite
Date: 26 Jul 1994 16:23:34 GMT
Organization: US Army TARDEC
Lines: 6
Distribution: world
Message-ID: >
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.tacom.army.mil

There's Hungarian programming ITC on SCOLA (ASC-1/Ch 23) as follows (times
are EDT): M-F 7:30PM - half hour, Sa 5:30PM half hour, Su 5:30PM two hours.
 There was also Hungarian programming on one of the PBS Ku-band channels on
late Sa afternoons but I don't recall specifically which channel or what
time or what the status of it is given that PBS is going digital
compression with their Ku-band feeds in August.

AGYKONTROLL ALLAT AUTO AZSIA BUDAPEST CODER DOSZ FELVIDEK FILM FILOZOFIA FORUM GURU HANG HIPHOP HIRDETES HIRMONDO HIXDVD HUDOM HUNGARY JATEK KEP KONYHA KONYV KORNYESZ KUKKER KULTURA LINUX MAGELLAN MAHAL MOBIL MOKA MOZAIK NARANCS NARANCS1 NY NYELV OTTHON OTTHONKA PARA RANDI REJTVENY SCM SPORT SZABAD SZALON TANC TIPP TUDOMANY UK UTAZAS UTLEVEL VITA WEBMESTER WINDOWS