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1 Re: Hungary was Icelands's history (mind)  33 sor     (cikkei)
2 Re: Maj. Gen. Bela Kiraly? (mind)  17 sor     (cikkei)
3 Please post genealogy into again! (mind)  6 sor     (cikkei)
4 Re: Impartiality of the media (mind)  18 sor     (cikkei)
5 Please Help (mind)  7 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Re: Hungary was Icelands's history (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Jeliko raised a number of intersting points in his reply to my posting
about the role of political institutiin limiting the type of conflict
a society experiences, but I will respond to only three--
1. he asks whether the Lapps ever attacked anybody.  I'm not sure, but the
Lapps are an intersting case on their own.  The people who are now called
Lapps (Sami) apparently were non-Lapp speakers who migrated into Lappland
from elsewhere, gave up their own language, and absorbed the language and
culture of the local people.  Much the same thing happened, BTW, with the
Bulgarians, who originally spoke a Finno-Ugric language, but then gave it
up when they settled in what is now Bulgaria, absorbing (or being ab-
sorbed by) the local Slavic-language speaking population.

2. he asserts that Great Britain was democratic for its home-island citi-
zens, but not for its colonies.  This is much too simple a view.  As Conor
Crusie O'Brien pointed out in an article about Northern Ireland in the
New York Review of Books some time ago, the question of democractic poli-
tical processes must be separated from the question of the political bound-
aries within which those processes are utilized.  In this respect, India was
probably about as democractic as England was in the 19th century, but was
not at liberty (until 1948) to determine the territorial boundaries of its
own political system, the same situation that pertains in Northern Ireland
at the present time.

3. he questions my use of the phrase "subject to falsification" in refer-
ence to possible weaknesses in my original argument.  As I understand this
term in social science, it means that I tried to present the argument and
its supporting data in such a way that I acknowledged the possibility that
that it was wrong and might very well be disproved.  I am simply not per-
suaded that Jeliko has in fact disproved it.

Regards,
Be'la Ba'tkay

+ - Re: Maj. Gen. Bela Kiraly? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Janos Gereben asked about where Maj. Gen. Be'la Kira'ly is and what he's
doing--
for many years, he was a professor of history at Brooklyn College in New
York (now retired), living in Highland Lakes, New Jersey.  From there, he
has continued to edit a voluminous series of books on East European history,
many with translations from Hungarian articles (I did some of the
 translations),under the imprint Atlantic Studies, with the sub-title Studies o
n
 Societies in
Change.  After the fall of Communism, he returned to Hungary and was elected
to the parliament.  He also wrote a short book in Hungarian entitle, I believe,
"Forradalomto'l forradalomig," about the period between 1956 and 1989.  I
think he has retained his New Jersey residence, as well.

Hope this helps.
Be'la Ba'tkay

+ - Please post genealogy into again! (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Like it said.  Please post the genealogy info list again.  My server must
have been out, the first time around.

Thanyou,

Andrew Bornyi
+ - Re: Impartiality of the media (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

 wrote:
: >The impartiality of the press, and for that matter, History, is a myth.

: says Eva Durant. I envy your self-confidence in these matters.

: Further:

: >history teaching
: >and the press in general claims to be neutral in the West, and in fact rep-
: >resents the establishment, the conservative/liberal and anti-change view.

: This is new to me. I would like to see a few examples of this
: conservative/liberal, anti-change and pro-establishment journalism in the
: west. Or history, for that matter. Eva Balogh

Try the British press in the Boer War or the Great War (WWI) for a start.

d.A.
+ - Please Help (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

I am an American mother who has come to Budapest twice to the PETO
Institute for cerebral palsy therapy for my daughter.  Since 1991 I have
been very interested in Hungary and its people.  I have made friends in
Budapest and I have a desire to know more and meet more Hungarian people.
I am interested in your politics, economy, history, and philosphy and
writers and poets.  If you are interested in correseponding with me please
contact me.

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