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1 Re: Hungary's Good Reputation (mind)  47 sor     (cikkei)
2 Re: Happy Easter ! (mind)  12 sor     (cikkei)
3 Re: Hungary's Good Reputation (mind)  5 sor     (cikkei)
4 Re: Hungary's Good Reputation (mind)  10 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Re: Hungary's Good Reputation (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

On Sat, 15 Apr 1995, Pal Hidas wrote:


>                                      ... Why do you mix the text of Robert
> and his usage of "elements" with mine ? Why do you want me fight against you
?
> Do you need desperately an enemy ? I am sorry, I do not like fighting like
> that.
..

Good Lord, Pal Hidas !
This is a forum for discussions. Fights and enemies ? Gee !
What are you talking about, anyway. I never mixed anything of yours with
Robert's text. Frankly, I do not participate in the Hungarian-Rumanian
debates, have not read any of your contributions so far.
The text that might have confused
you <Pal ...>, is actually <pal> at the beginning of a
sentence,therefore starting with a capital <P>, meaning
chum, friend, fellow, guy, etc.
So, please, turn off your engines, nothing in that letter was meant
against you but solely Robert, and, without any generalization applied to
Hungarians/Jews/Jewish Hungarians.

All I was criticizing is Robert's( as a person)  usage of notions,
phrases, that I do not think he will ever be able to get the
slightest grip on - Hungary, guilt, good/bad . His thoughts are
outrageously  negligent; stupidly obscure; the topic of his letter is
especially
arrogantly choosen under the title "Hungary's Reputation".
I called him a racist, because he wrote

>> All nations have their good and bad elements, the main
>> question is the proportion between the two.

These are exactly the phrases that narrow-minded people use to justify
their inferiority/superiority little ideas. Racism nowadys is based on
"statistics" . Without ever being able to define a generally valid
goodness/badness for all culture, the sentence like Robert's above is
nothing but a dangerous (semi) intellectual trash.

Take care,
Gotthard

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+ - Re: Happy Easter ! (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

:Kellemes Husveti Unnepeket kivanok a csoport minden olvasojanak!
:I wish the readers of this group a very Happy Easter!

Is it implicitly assumed that all readers of this group care for Easter?
Well, I am one of those who don't. So next time, please say something like "I
wish all those readers of this group who celebrate Easter, a very Happy
Easter!" BTW, I wish all those readers of this group who celebrate Passover,
a very Happy Passover. Viszl\'at...Pali

Paul Nevai                            
Dept Math - Ohio State University     1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A.     1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
+ - Re: Hungary's Good Reputation (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Well, this came also here. You know, Gotthard, that was my sentence (also ?).
Unfortunately those original letters of mine and Robert are out of the group,
I checked it from another machine. Hm. So forget it.

Pal
+ - Re: Hungary's Good Reputation (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Gotthard, the vituperation you have aimed at Robert Hetzron is too much,
even for the Internet. "All nations have their good and bad elements,"
Robert quipped, and allegedly this has upset you so that you have called
his thinking "outrageously negligent", "stupidly obscure", "arrogant",
"narrow-minded", "semi-intellectual trash", and Robert himself a "little
bloody racist" (the correct word order is: bloody little racist).  Whence
the rage? Den Sack schlaegst du, den Esel meinst du, es az kiabal, akinek
a haza eg.

Louis Elteto

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