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||Direct democracy Was: Horn and democracy (mind)
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||Re: Horn and democracy (mind)
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Dear Eva Durant (and Attila too!),
The river of a discussion can easily branch to a stream that is quite remote
from the original main subject.
It is surely interesting how the police behaves in the USA and innocent drivers
are welcome to contribute with stories. I myself, too, have a few.
But this has little to do with democracy and absolute NOTHING to do with Horn!
Continuous indication of the original subject is misleading at the least. If
you keep te subject for ease the search in the archive, then attaching huge
sections (often the entire posing) of the previous material is quite
superfluous. Otherwise, you should just select a suitable few words for the
subjects of your otherwise excellent postings.
I'm hungry to read everything from your keyboard but I can not hide my above
irritation and the disapproval of unneccessary littering the network with
repetition of already broadcast text. Not to mention the wasted MBs of my
Regards, Gabor (No hard feelings!)
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On 29 Jul 94 21:04:33 +0200, Gerg Grose > wrote:
>I forwarded Mr Kanala's postings to a Swiss citizen working here, he
>considered it "generally accurate" as far as the voting percentages and
>the description of the process.
I have reread my own posting and found a severe typo that might change
the sense what I wanted to write about:
>Subject of a votation is usually uninteresting to many, while some can
>feel a concern, and it can be vital for a few. This does mean the SYSTEM
>would be wrong. I consider this to be rather a democratic feature.
The right sentence should be "This does NOT mean the SYSTEM would be
wrong." I am sorry for that lapsus.
As for importance of elections as compared to votations, these indeed
have some importance because day-to-day management is being done by a
politician and is done in a certain way. However, a Swiss politician has
always to be aware of that fragile equilibrium of consensus and that if
he is wrong, he might be publicly reminded about that by a referendum and
that's not good for him. People here have a remarkably developed civic
sense and don't forget such things.
I perfectly agree that participation in a votation has nothing to do with
democracy, and as I pointed out in my previous message, comparing the
Swiss system with any "classical" democracy may be wrong for reasons of
difference with a "direct" democracy. And agree completely that the vote
itself is less important than the campaign when every participant tries
to show his arguments. It's this discussion that's the most precious.
|+ - ||Re: Horn and democracy (mind)
We were at the Balaton for three weeks, and whenever we drove at night, we
would invariably get stopped and have our papers checked. I have my own way
of dealing with persnickety cops in Hungary: speak only English, and even if
the cop speaks a little English, pretend you cannot understand him. After about
2 minutes, he'll realize it's not worth the effort and promptly back away and
leave. In East Berlin once (I was going to visit the Pergamon Museum) in 1984,
the border guard searched me and my belongings, and was ready to do a strip
search, when I spoke the only sentence I know in German: Ich bin ein Dichter
(I am a poet). He let me go. I wish I could say I made this up. It was true.